Militarizeation of modern police forces

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Some books have been written about this. I have not read them and know little about this subject but..

Military has given police forces armored vehicles, SWAT teams, sniper rifles, smashing into homes at gunpoint, killing innocents that try to defend against seeming home invasion, very poor identification methods verifying that they are legitimate police,innocent men,women and kids at gun point,assaulting homes in the middle of night instead of daytime (these assaults seem like home invasion),not being careful enough in identifying targeted individuals and homes..

Military methods, not normal policing methods.

Why? A tactical response to drug dealers, thugs, dangerous ex cons and criminals. And , because they can. Some of this seems reasonable, much does not.

BLM riots , terror tactics, looting, arson,threatening with weapons, physical assault, property damage, verbal rage... All of this seems to demand an escalation by the police. But blm, liberals call for defunding of police. The average citizen should be frightened by all of this. There is a reason that gun stores sold out of guns and ammo.

[lyman]

I think the operator mentality started long ago, and maybe escalated when preferential hiring was given to .mil..


opening up the .mil surplus warehouse maybe helped a bit, or not (how many police depts got armored vehicles and regretted the maintenance costs?)

[mr.j]

Some books have been written about this. I have not read them and know little about this subject but..

Military has given police forces armored vehicles, SWAT teams, sniper rifles, smashing into homes at gunpoint, killing innocents that try to defend against seeming home invasion, very poor identification methods verifying that they are legitimate police,innocent men,women and kids at gun point,assaulting homes in the middle of night instead of daytime (these assaults seem like home invasion),not being careful enough in identifying targeted individuals and homes..

Military methods, not normal policing methods.

Why? A tactical response to drug dealers, thugs, dangerous ex cons and criminals. And , because they can. Some of this seems reasonable, much does not.

BLM riots , terror tactics, looting, arson,threatening with weapons, physical assault, property damage, verbal rage... All of this seems to demand an escalation by the police. But blm, liberals call for defunding of police. The average citizen should be frightened by all of this. There is a reason that gun stores sold out of guns and ammo.

Those same people that deployed the military on drug dealers and users are the ones selling the drugs, the same people are also allowing your cities to burn while the military sits back and watches.

[togor]

This guy, undoubtedly liberal, nonetheless put up the money and took one of Crossman's courses in "killology" and wrote about it. Small wonder that the neighborhoods experiencing this kind of policing feel like they are occupied by enemy troops. Because that's how the cops are training themselves to think, and act.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html

A good friend's father was US Army, did not see combat in Europe but was one of those who came over fresh from the US into the occupation of Germany in 1945. It was a dangerous place still for US troops and martial law was necessary....for a time. But the goal was always for that to be temporary, to move back to civil forms of governance, and to get the locals (with some limits, so no Nazis) back to doing the policing as soon as practical.

With this warrior-cop + killology mindset, police are acting like combat infantrymen. It shouldn't take a genius to figure out that for whatever other problems a neighborhood has, cops playing combat soldier as if they are occupiers in enemy territory during wartime is only going to make things worse.

Added: and imagine infantrymen with union rules that allow them to haggle over orders from above! It's fair to say some places are getting the worst of all possible worlds when it comes to policing! Cops with a combat mindset, protected by big-city union bureaucracies so their superiors can't rein them in.

[lyman]

then there is this

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Lt.Col.Dave Grossman of Killology Research Group

Go to www.killology.com: Psychology, terrorism, learning to kill, aggression, violence, crime, video games are a course in learning to murder-a simulator.

He is a psychologist, author of books, director of Killology Research Group.

Also, one book, RISE OF THE WARRIOR COP BY RADLEY BALKO, C 2013

Also, CIVILIAN WARRIORS- THE INSIDE STORY OF BLACKWATER C 2013

There are others.

[SUPERX-M1]

Go to this link, read it. Very interesting.

This guy, undoubtedly liberal, nonetheless put up the money and took one of Crossman's courses in "killology" and wrote about it. Small wonder that the neighborhoods experiencing this kind of policing feel like they are occupied by enemy troops. Because that's how the cops are training themselves to think, and act.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html

A good friend's father was US Army, did not see combat in Europe but was one of those who came over fresh from the US into the occupation of Germany in 1945. It was a dangerous place still for US troops and martial law was necessary....for a time. But the goal was always for that to be temporary, to move back to civil forms of governance, and to get the locals (with some limits, so no Nazis) back to doing the policing as soon as practical.

With this warrior-cop + killology mindset, police are acting like combat infantrymen. It shouldn't take a genius to figure out that for whatever other problems a neighborhood has, cops playing combat soldier as if they are occupiers in enemy territory during wartime is only going to make things worse.

Added: and imagine infantrymen with union rules that allow them to haggle over orders from above! It's fair to say some places are getting the worst of all possible worlds when it comes to policing! Cops with a combat mindset, protected by big-city union bureaucracies so their superiors can't rein them in.

Don't skip this link. Read it. We all have interactions with authority and police.

[S.A. Boggs]

Don't skip this link. Read it. We all have interactions with authority and police.

Sure do, darn near every day. Don't get between a cop and his meal...not a good idea.
Sam

[dryheat]

I've never been killed by a cop. I don't know, it just never seems to happen.