Here we go again.. police put hood over a man suffocating him

[rayg]

Read the full story for the event...

Protests erupt in upstate New York over video showing a black man, 41, suffocating to death in March after cops put a 'spit hood' over his head and pressed his face down until he stopped breathing

WARNING: Disturbing content

Around three and a half minutes into the body camera footage, one of the officers places a mesh hood over Prude's head, after he attempted to spit at officers, allegedly telling them he had COVID-19. New York,

Daniel Prude was left brain dead after the incident and later died on March 30 when he was taken off of life support - seven days after the encounter

The medical examiner ruled his death a homicide, on account of complications caused from asphyxia from physical restraint, as well as PCP intoxication

The incident occurred on March 23 – weeks before George Floyd died, sparking nationwide protests – but Prude’s death received no public attention however, that changed on Wednesday when his family held a news conference to reveal disturbing police body camera footage of Prude’s final moments

Protesters gathered Wednesday outside Rochester's Public Safety Building, which also serves as its police headquarters and demonstrators remained as night fell, demanding for the officers involved to be charged with murder

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-custody.html

[togor]

Just a few bad apples, protected by their unions. Nothing systemic or anything.

Wait... can't unions protecting bad apples be a systemic problem?

[S.A. Boggs]

I have seen the mask used as well as the restraint chair with no ill affects to the inmate. The masks are porous and air goes in freely. Now PCP is another matter entirely and people do die from this quite frequently. Notice that the "deaths" occur when the person has ingested an illegal substance, often in large quantiles? If the actor was white would Black Lives Matter care?
Sam

[clintonhater]

Just a few bad apples, protected by their unions. Nothing systemic or anything.

Wait... can't unions protecting bad apples be a systemic problem?

Any rational person would say that the totally rotten apple was the POS that tried to spit on the cops. You tell me, what kind of vicious ANIMAL would do that? Would you deny that the world is a better place with this sub-human removed from it?

Somebody provide me with ONE example of a Negro mistreated by cops who submitted calmly & peacefully to being arrested.

[Mark in Ottawa]

There have been a number of incidents recently where unarmed people who are having a mental breakdown have died after an interaction with the police. The lesson that is being learned is that there is a need to train the police on how to handle such interactions in a manner that does not lead to the death of the individual. Having said that, if the individual is armed and tries to kill or badly injure someone then clearly a strong response is appropriate.

[Roadkingtrax]

Spit hoods are common.

[clintonhater]

There have been a number of incidents recently where unarmed people who are having a mental breakdown have died after an interaction with the police.

Good riddance. Is society better off having MORE whackos, who probably are or become social parasites, in it? Should they be left alone to do harm to someone else when the cops aren't around?

[togor]

Good riddance. Is society better off having MORE whackos, who probably are or become social parasites, in it? Should they be left alone to do harm to someone else when the cops aren't around?

Could you not easily be labeled a social misfit in your own very blue state? Could be a spit hood out there with your name on it.

[clintonhater]

Could you not easily be labeled a social misfit in your own very blue state? Could be a spit hood out there with your name on it.

Maybe I'm a social misfit, but I'm not an out-of-control animal who spits on cops--I've been arrested more than once, & no spit hood was needed, nor was I mistreated in any way, not because I'm white, but because I DIDN'T FIGHT BACK, like these out-of-control animals always do.

Anyway, the "very blue" part I stay out of; people around me (inc. the many cops I know) think as I do, or I wouldn't still be here.

[togor]

Congrats on not needing a spit hood applied during your arrests?

[togor]

Lots of interesting details in this story from Buffalo, CH. Seems like if you don't "like" the police up there, they reserve the right to mete out their own brand of justice.

[Mark in Ottawa]

Rochester is only a few hours drive from Ottawa so both Canadian news networks just carried the mayor's news conference.

She is a lawyer and is well spoken but she went on for quite a while to the effect that there are two education systems (one for whites and one for blacks); two justice systems, two economic systems etc and that that had to end. She also indicated that in future she wanted a quick report on any death in custody situation and that certain race relation approaches would be strengthened as would approaches for people with obvious mental problems, etc. Mostly pretty rational until she demanded that people who had been arrested during demonstrations should have the charges dropped. It only became apparent near the end of her long speech that the fellow did not die from the police action; he died from an over-dose of drugs. The police, of course, are to blame because they did not react fast enough. Nowhere in her speech did she say anything about people being being responsible for their own actions.

I may be hard-hearted but I find it difficult to feel a lot of sorrow for people who voluntarily choose to ingest drugs and die because of their own actions.

[dryheat]

If they are mental keep them in the Nut House.

[Vern Humphrey]

Rochester is only a few hours drive from Ottawa so both Canadian news networks just carried the mayor's news conference.

She is a lawyer and is well spoken but she went on for quite a while to the effect that there are two education systems (one for whites and one for blacks); two justice systems, two economic systems etc and that that had to end. She also indicated that in future she wanted a quick report on any death in custody situation and that certain race relation approaches would be strengthened as would approaches for people with obvious mental problems, etc. Mostly pretty rational until she demanded that people who had been arrested during demonstrations should have the charges dropped.

When judging politicians, look at what they DO, not what they SAY.

It only became apparent near the end of her long speech that the fellow did not die from the police action; he died from an over-dose of drugs. The police, of course, are to blame because they did not react fast enough. Nowhere in her speech did she say anything about people being being responsible for their own actions.

I may be hard-hearted but I find it difficult to feel a lot of sorrow for people who voluntarily choose to ingest drugs and die because of their own actions.

She says there are two justice systems -- she's right. One for the politically-favored, and one for everyone else. She should have spoken up immediately, saying this man died of illegal drugs that he ingested himself, not from police action.

[togor]

Dryheat, we closed the nuthouses to save money. Of course we ended up building more prisons instead, so there you go.

Mark: excellent points about personal responsibility and drugs. Totally agree. But if being stoned-while-black gives the cops a freebie, let's at least have that conversation. In white Appalachia pill use is rampant, and there even conservatives describe addiction as a disease, not a criminal status.