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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #76
    Originally posted by rayg
    That first post got all the lib's here totally unhinged...fun to watch..Lol
    not really, nothing we didn't already know

    but it did raise a few points that have been addressed

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #77
      Originally posted by rayg
      That first post got all the lib's here totally unhinged...fun to watch..Lol
      There's a difference between conservativism (or liberalism, etc.) as a political construct, and engaging yourself in a "culture of personality".
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #78
        Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
        There's a difference between conservativism (or liberalism, etc.) as a political construct, and engaging yourself in a "culture of personality".
        Please explain to me what you mean by engaging yourself in a culture of personality......

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #79
          Originally posted by rayg
          Please explain to me what you mean by engaging yourself in a culture of personality......
          This should explain it. People venerate Trump the way the used to venerate Jesus.

          Kseniya Kirillova speaks to cult expert Steven Hassan, who has been helping people exit destructive cults since 1976 having once been a member of the ‘Moonies’, about the US President’s supporter base US President Donald Trump appears to have the traits of a leader of a destructive cult and his influence on the most zealous […]

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #80
            Originally posted by togor
            This should explain it. People venerate Trump the way the used to venerate Jesus.

            https://bylinetimes.com/2020/06/18/v...sonality-cult/
            What saddens you Togey is that your side has chosen Biden.
            Sam

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            • Gun Smoke
              Banned
              • Sep 2019
              • 1658

              #81
              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
              What saddens you Togey is that your side has chosen Biden.
              Sam
              And out of that whole mob that was running biden is the least likely to win.

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              • clintonhater
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 5220

                #82
                Originally posted by togor
                People venerate Trump the way the used to venerate Jesus.
                What idiotic BS! We're WELL aware of his shortcomings, but they're insignificant compared to the disasters planned for us by our enemies. Reserve "veneration" to describe the Dem's ass-kissing of black no-bodies from Jessie Jackson to Elijah Cummings to John Lewis.

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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                  And out of that whole mob that was running biden is the least likely to win.
                  I dunno about that -- the Democrat field was like the freak show at the circus.

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                  • Mark in Ottawa
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1744

                    #84
                    This is pretty consistent with the idea that people in democracies frequently vote against a person or a party or an idea as opposed to happily voting for the opposing person or party or idea. In this case, I suspect that what he says is pretty valid for both sides and that a lot of people who might otherwise vote Republican will vote against Mr Trump and will cast their ballots for Mr Biden in spite of his perceived flaws.

                    Normally as a Canadian I am loath to comment on American politics as I consider it unseemly to do so but allow me to make a bizarre prediction. My prediction is that Mr Trump will lose on Nov 3 and will resign on Nov 5 allowing Mr Pence to have a footnote in history and become the 46th president of the USA, albeit only for about 6 weeks. In return for giving Mr Pence that place in history, Mr Pence will issue a pardon for any crimes that Mr Trump might have ever done. It may not be legal but by the time it winds its way through the courts, Mr Trump will be about 90 years old and won't care.

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Mark in Ottawa
                      This is pretty consistent with the idea that people in democracies frequently vote against a person or a party or an idea as opposed to happily voting for the opposing person or party or idea. In this case, I suspect that what he says is pretty valid for both sides and that a lot of people who might otherwise vote Republican will vote against Mr Trump and will cast their ballots for Mr Biden in spite of his perceived flaws.

                      Normally as a Canadian I am loath to comment on American politics as I consider it unseemly to do so but allow me to make a bizarre prediction. My prediction is that Mr Trump will lose on Nov 3 and will resign on Nov 5 allowing Mr Pence to have a footnote in history and become the 46th president of the USA, albeit only for about 6 weeks. In return for giving Mr Pence that place in history, Mr Pence will issue a pardon for any crimes that Mr Trump might have ever done. It may not be legal but by the time it winds its way through the courts, Mr Trump will be about 90 years old and won't care.
                      But only if Mars is aligned with Saturn in the House of Sagittarius.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #86
                        Getting a pardon from Pence will not spare Trump in state courts, and it won't stop the real Trump story from eventually coming out.

                        Ford pardoned Nixon because Nixon had lost the GOP. It was understood that Nixon had obstructed. Trump if anything is worse than Nixon, and demanded that the party back him to the hilt, and they did.

                        Pardoning Trump would be tantamount to admitting the anti-Trumpers were right all along. They are right, of course, and everyone knows it, but Trump has cannily made himself too big to fail, politically speaking.

                        Being deep in Trump political futures is a bit like being a multi-millionaire, holding Reichsmarks, in January, 1944. You know the day is coming when that currency is worthless, but how to cash out?

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                        • clintonhater
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 5220

                          #87
                          Originally posted by togor
                          Getting a pardon from Pence will not spare Trump in state courts, and it won't stop the real Trump story from eventually coming out.

                          This is your formula--which you & the other Dems constantly lecture the rest of us on--for "bringing the country together"?

                          I say again, & again, because it can't be said often enough, hypocrisy isn't a side-effect, adjunct, appendage, etc., of liberalism, it's the very heart, soul, root, & core of it.

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #88
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Getting a pardon from Pence will not spare Trump in state courts, and it won't stop the real Trump story from eventually coming out.

                            Ford pardoned Nixon because Nixon had lost the GOP. It was understood that Nixon had obstructed. Trump if anything is worse than Nixon, and demanded that the party back him to the hilt, and they did.

                            Pardoning Trump would be tantamount to admitting the anti-Trumpers were right all along. They are right, of course, and everyone knows it, but Trump has cannily made himself too big to fail, politically speaking.

                            Being deep in Trump political futures is a bit like being a multi-millionaire, holding Reichsmarks, in January, 1944. You know the day is coming when that currency is worthless, but how to cash out?
                            Sorry Togey, 4 MORE YEARS! If the Biden team was so sure of their winning why is Harris still a Senator? Why not resign to campaign full time as the running mate? Is it because she knows they will not win and she wants to stay in power?
                            Sam

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #89
                              Originally posted by clintonhater
                              This is your formula--which you & the other Dems constantly lecture the rest of us on--for "bringing the country together"?

                              I say again, & again, because it can't be said often enough, hypocrisy isn't a side-effect, adjunct, appendage, etc., of liberalism, it's the very heart, soul, root, & core of it.
                              Trump's a crook, surrounded by crooks, using the DOJ and the powers of the office to shield himself. The question isn't whether or not you see that, but why you think it's okay to tolerate such criminality in office, and why you think Trump's actions won't breed more, and more corruption, until the office itself is completely debased. There is nothing conservative about tolerating corruption in office and nothing particularly liberal about opposing it.

                              I don't care if he spent his time with hookers watching them pee. I do care that he botched Covid and f*cked up the economy in the process and is trying to lie his way through it.
                              Last edited by togor; 09-16-2020, 02:38.

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                              • rayg
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 7444

                                #90
                                Boy you have really lost it..There are a couple of other guys I personally know like you that all they can do is post their hate of Trump..They post it on line every day... Way way, over board just like you...Any hate and obsession like that can't be mentally normal
                                Last edited by rayg; 09-16-2020, 03:03.

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