Money influences and buys favors to allow their kids to get in college

[rayg]

Money influences, buys favors for rich people for their kids at college ...

University of California wrongly admitted 64 wealthy students over the last six years as 'favors to donors, family, and friends,' audit shows

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-students.html

[SUPERX-M1]

Is there a law against admission for money? In all states?

They did prosecute some cases recently.

How about legacy admissions? No money.

Some institutions are moving away from SAT & ACT because ?

[Roadkingtrax]

Captain Obvious.

[blackhawknj]

Nothing new. In the Varsity Blues cases those people made the mistake of dealing directly with underlings. It's like dealing with a crime family-you go to the Big Boss, he decides who does what, who profits, etc.
I read of a case at Princeton U., a graduate and regular donor stopped giving after both his daughters were rejected. Only way to ensure real "fairness" in admissions is to do it by a lottery.

[Gun Smoke]

While I feel people like Lori Loughlin and her husband did wrong, they don't deserve jail time. Those who accepted the extra $ however should be jailed for all eternity. A parent wants what's best for their child or a least wants what their child wants so the temptation is going to be there if it is made avalable.

On the flip side, where to these colleges get off admitting students with a negative IQ simply because they can play sports?

Someone who bounces a basketball has no place in a college. It's bad enough in high school.

[SUPERX-M1]

While I feel people like Lori Loughlin and her husband did wrong, they don't deserve jail time. Those who accepted the extra $ however should be jailed for all eternity. A parent wants what's best for their child or a least wants what their child wants so the temptation is going to be there if it is made avalable.

On the flip side, where to these colleges get off admitting students with a negative IQ simply because they can play sports?

Someone who bounces a basketball has no place in a college. It's bad enough in high school.

College sports: A lot of money involved in various ways. Another student recruiting tool to get students into their school. Pro sports uses college as a training ground to funnel players to them. I would prefer (but others do not) that there be no sports in college or high school. Students would do better to not be involved in sports. So much for my opinion.

[Gun Smoke]

College sports: A lot of money involved in various ways. Another student recruiting tool to get students into their school. Pro sports uses college as a training ground to funnel players to them. I would prefer (but others do not) that there be no sports in college or high school. Students would do better to not be involved in sports. So much for my opinion.

Looks like we mostly agree.

I know colleges make money from sports but that is not suppose to be the purpose of a college and students pay plenty for tuition to where sports shouldn't be needed. They have all become big businesses that offer a piece of paper at the end for those that graduate (also found on ebay, I hear).

I look for college education to change in the future but I did back in 1985 too when VCR's were popular. There's really no need to rot in a classroom these days when most everything can be done on line or use of DVD's. I see the schools once considered "great" like Harvard, Yale, Princeton and many others going to the wayside and their demands for such expensive tuition going with it.

There's no reason why everyone can't have a college education w/o attending college except to take test. College's that now "house" 10,000 students could circulate 100,000 students if all they needed to do was attend 1 hour a week or so (for questions and testing).

My 2 cents worth.

[blackhawknj]

When you attend and graduate from a prestige school you join an alumni association, a network. It's like the service academies, the officers they produce are no better than those from ROTC and OCS but they are better connected.
I question the whole college sports fixation. My "alma mater"-Rutgers-has tried to become a sports machine, joined the "Big 10"-whatever that is. Been pretty ruthless about raising tuition, dismisses the complaints of students that it causes them hardship. They've tried hard to build up their alumni association over the last 30 years. In 2001 they held the 25th reunion of my class-it was attended by all of 60 people out of a class of over 1200.
I am a firm believer that white collar criminals should do hard time, and the more the better.

[togor]

...I am a firm believer that white collar criminals should do hard time, and the more the better.

Agree with you sir and think we may be on the verge of a GOLDEN AGE of white collar criminal incarcerations. One Bannon's worth of theft would amount to a line of Target shopping carts a mile long. White collar crime is where the real money is made.

[Vern Humphrey]

Nothing new. In the Varsity Blues cases those people made the mistake of dealing directly with underlings. It's like dealing with a crime family-you go to the Big Boss, he decides who does what, who profits, etc.
I read of a case at Princeton U., a graduate and regular donor stopped giving after both his daughters were rejected. Only way to ensure real "fairness" in admissions is to do it by a lottery.

Actually, the only way to ensure fairness is to have properly designed admissions criteria so you admit the most qualified.

[Vern Humphrey]

Been pretty ruthless about raising tuition, dismisses the complaints of students that it causes them hardship.

The ever-increasing cost of tuition is a result of the Student Loan program. In a free-trade situation, raising prices would result in fewer students, but with the Student Loan program, "Hey, the kids can just borrow more."

With the result that kids start out in life owing $40K or more. In effect, the colleges are stealing the kids' life savings even before they are earned.

Just for grins and giggles, calculate what $40K would be worth if invested in a Mutual Fund like Fidelity Advisor Series I Growth (FAOFX) over 40 years. (For the mathematically challenged, that comes out to over $100 million.)