The first debate

[S.A. Boggs]

What ever you post, Togor will challenge it or post an opposite argument....He just loves to post...

Togey can't help himself, it is the mental illness aspect that Togey lives with daily.
Sam

[Gun Smoke]

I have said repeatedly that one of the benefits of a Biden presidency is that conservative media will suddenly expect the POTUS to do a decent job again, instead of always arguing the bar down for Trump. I dare anyone to contradict me on that point. And notice that position actually assumes an adversarial relationship between the free press and the government as necessary and ultimately beneficial thing. None of this "press is the enemy of the people" totalitarian crap that people here like to spout.

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Also GS your state requires photo IDs now so everything I wrote before is true. Voter fraud on a wholesale scale is basically impossible, given the ID requirements, and the way the process is dispersed. Possible exception to that being the state of Georgia, where (until recently) their all-electronic system could be hacked by simply editing spreadsheets with results, to the benefit of Republican officeholders (who controlled the voting process).

First off, there is no conservative media. If you're speaking about FOX they already expect the POTUS to do a decent job and he is. What BS.

The press as it exist IS "The Enemy of the People" and people like you naturally don't want to acknowledge it of course.

Voter ID in MY state requires picture ID. That does not account for all the other states and by no stretch of the immagination make your comments true.

Mail in ballots will just be additional voting. Illegal if the same name appears on the registration list come November and we all know they will be there. With the election just 32 days away, they aren't going to be changing the list.

As said before, if the mail in voting didn't benefit only the democrats they would not be pushing for it so hard.

Trump has every right and reason to discredit the election results should he lose.

NOW, what about the original subject of this thread? What about the debate? What is your great Biden going to do for America besides raise taxes and make gun ownership illegal?

[togor]

You're just repeating your own misinfo without bothering to check any of it out.

Take a state on the bubble, like NC. Trump did basically the same thing you are now, spouted misinfo about mail-in balloting, forcing people who actually know the score to have to stop what they were doing and explain how Trump is full of sh*t.

How about this: you shouldn't bother voting because they already know who is going to win. Stay home, stay safe. All problems solved.

[togor]

NOW, what about the original subject of this thread? What about the debate? What is your great Biden going to do for America besides raise taxes and make gun ownership illegal?

He'll do a better job of getting us over the virus.

He's going to not eff up health care the way Trump is trying to. Maybe if you are already enjoying the blessings of socialized medicine this is not on your radar screen, but many in this country are not.

He'll make a go at restoring the tattered friendships that Trump has no use for (that you have no use for either, I am guessing, but that doesn't make you right, just someone like Trump who doesn't value friendship)

Hopefully he'll open the files on the sh*t Trump was up to so we can see it all for ourselves in black & white. Leave no doubt as to how big a crook the guy is, so that even the lowest of the low-information voters gets a clue.

Every year, more doubters go "sh*t this climate business is the real deal....what are we going to do about it?" Just getting rid of the denier-in-chief is a step in the right direction.

Biden is the guy Xi and Putin *don't* want in the White House. Their endorsement ought to be good enough for anyone.

[clintonhater]

He'll do a better job of getting us over the virus.

Because the Dem-controlled press will drop the hysteria!

[Sandpebble]

I recently voted by mail in a local Florida election .

Four days from dropping the ballot in the mailbox I could access a website and see that my vote had been logged . So, how would I get away with voting twice ?

First thing that Trump did on his watch was to launch a voter fraud investigation ... came up with nothing didn't he ?

Four years later and I'm still listening to all this crap about the dead still being on the voter roles ..... why didn't he fix this ??

Maybe because he's hoping for the dead to vote for him .... or is incapable .... whichever you say

[togor]

I recently voted by mail in a local Florida election .

Four days from dropping the ballot in the mailbox I could access a website and see that my vote had been logged . So, how would I get away with voting twice ?

First thing that Trump did on his watch was to launch a voter fraud investigation ... came up with nothing didn't he ?

Four years later and I'm still listening to all this crap about the dead still being on the voter roles ..... why didn't he fix this ??

Maybe because he's hoping for the dead to vote for him .... or is incapable .... whichever you say

A good buddy once observed you can tell a lot about people about the lies they tell themselves. In this case.....that votes against their guy are somehow fraudulent....because they don't want to face the fact that most people look at Trump and are genuinely repulsed by a pathetic creature trying to fill a bottomless pit of emptiness, who would kick the supports out from under every structure we've erected to preserve peaceful transfer of power in this country to hang onto power and spare himself the rebuke of the country. Once separated from the office, he must be laid bare for all his sins to be seen by all. The liberals will want to go soft-hearted on him, start the healing. Not me. I do not share that particular weakness.

[Gun Smoke]

Those who favor the corruption will defend the corruption.

[Vern Humphrey]

When voting is presented in numerous ways people duplicate their votes.

From personal experience as a County Election Commissioner, I can tell you how they do it -- they match up the phone book with the list of registered voters, and submit a registration form for everyone in the book who ISN'T registered. Then they request absentee ballots for those people -- to be mailed to a ballot collecting address -- and vote them.

[Gun Smoke]

He'll do a better job of getting us over the virus.

He is partially responsible for the virus.

It was obama and goofy-a$$ Fauci that funded the research with the chinese. Now while biden is too stupid to have a direct hand in this he had to have known what was going on under obama's administration.

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From personal experience as a County Election Commissioner, I can tell you how they do it -- they match up the phone book with the list of registered voters, and submit a registration form for everyone in the book who ISN'T registered. Then they request absentee ballots for those people -- to be mailed to a ballot collecting address -- and vote them.

So the corruption starts at the county level? Seems like county employees would be the only ones to have access to those records.

[S.A. Boggs]

I recently voted by mail in a local Florida election .

Four days from dropping the ballot in the mailbox I could access a website and see that my vote had been logged . So, how would I get away with voting twice ?

First thing that Trump did on his watch was to launch a voter fraud investigation ... came up with nothing didn't he ?

Four years later and I'm still listening to all this crap about the dead still being on the voter roles ..... why didn't he fix this ??

Maybe because he's hoping for the dead to vote for him .... or is incapable .... whichever you say

Your stake wasn't long enough?
Sa,

[togor]

Gun Smoke still on the Wuhan lab thing? Shhh, the moon is green cheese while you're at it.

Back to the debate: specifically the split screen shots. Watch Trump's head. He doesn't turn it so much as he swings his chin out to the side, the effect being that he's looking down his nose at whomever is speaking. Watch for it. Contempt is his natural state.

[Gun Smoke]

Gun Smoke still on the Wuhan lab thing? Shhh, the moon is green cheese while you're at it.

Back to the debate: specifically the split screen shots. Watch Trump's head. He doesn't turn it so much as he swings his chin out to the side, the effect being that he's looking down his nose at whomever is speaking. Watch for it. Contempt is his natural state.

I think Sid meant something of importance in the debate.

Back to the Wuhan lab, sure, you've looked it up and now try to defend your leader. I think the only reason Trump hasn't brought this up for investigation is that it would put the blame equally or solely on the U.S. rather than China.

[Vern Humphrey]

So the corruption starts at the county level? Seems like county employees would be the only ones to have access to those records.

Voter rolls are matters of Public Record. You can get your county voter rolls on disk for $20.

[togor]

I think Sid meant something of importance in the debate.

Back to the Wuhan lab, sure, you've looked it up and now try to defend your leader. I think the only reason Trump hasn't brought this up for investigation is that it would put the blame equally or solely on the U.S. rather than China.

Trump has no reluctance to blame Obama for anything. If his people aren't running with this Wuhan lab thing, it's because it's such a whopper that even they can't imagine getting any mileage with it. It's a proven fact that Trump supporters will believe all kinds of stuff that isn't true, and this is a big reason why I hold him in such contempt. His pitch is one big lie.