Querky Biden

[Major Tom]

All his political life he has demeaned blacks. In fact, right after the end of the Civil War, democrats have tried to put down blacks. It took President Grant to give blacks what they (blacks) were hoping for. POTUS hopeful, Harris, will try to ruin our nation with many many executive orders. Nation wide chaos will follow! Biden will get the shock of his useless life when Harris, Pelosi and Hillary have him removed from office. To them, Biden is just a stepping stone to put Harris as POTUS.

[togor]

That seems unlikely.

One does wonder though when Pelosi might retire. But the old gal has been pretty effective for her side.

[Tuna]

Ah someone else has seen the light behind the Ultra Liberal Agenda. Use Biden and replace with Harris. Now she won't let any of the liberal side here keep their semi auto rifles. No assault rifles, no semi auto pistols, why even Togor's M1 and M1A1 rifles will be confiscated and most likely paid for but destroyed in the end. Then they will go after the bolt action rifles. Hey they may allow them to keep their break open single shot shotguns as even Biden had one. Yup just like New Zealand and Australia and many others as the list just keeps getting longer. The world Liberal Agenda just keeps growing like the virus it really is.

[togor]

I've asked people how this feared confiscation comes off as a practical matter. Nobody has an answer, so that should tell people something.

Confiscation will get shot down by a Trump judge unless something big happens to scare the bejeezus out everybody. Say militia action against the public or law enforcement. That would probably do it. But that not Biden or Harris, but rather a bunch of guys in beards precipitating it.

[S.A. Boggs]

82]That seems unlikely.[/B]

One does wonder though when Pelosi might retire. But the old gal has been pretty effective for her side.

Why?
Sam

[Gun Smoke]

That seems unlikely.

One does wonder though when Pelosi might retire. But the old gal has been pretty effective for her side.

And look what her/your side represent.

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I've asked people how this feared confiscation comes off as a practical matter. Nobody has an answer, so that should tell people something.

No. You are given an answer every time.

Look how it is in England and most everywhere else that have fallen to socialism/communism.

While the government will not go door to door and take them they will pass laws making them illegal. When you try to use one, even in self defense, someone will always rat you out and you will get a visit from the law. With most people cramed together like rats these days especially in the cities a gun shot will always be heard and reported.

When that day comes it won't matter how much ammo you have stashed, how many un-registered guns you have, what caliber they are, the value of them or anything else. A gun will be a gun even if you make it from scratch and parts.

You must really be proud to be a part of this.

[togor]

Your answer is too broad-brush.

England doesn't have a written Constitution, much less a second amendment. And the number of firearms stakeholders in that country is nearly nil.

Now....if 100 years from now the population as a whole here does not support personal firearms ownership, then things might be different in terms of what happens. But right now, today, overwhelmingly it does support private ownership of firearms.

Where it might get sticky is military-style semi-autos. But if that happens the kick-in-the-pants will be some kind of militia action against broader society. One cannot support law-and-order concurrently with irregular militias, once shooting starts. That particular risk has everything to do with Trump's rhetoric over the past years, plus some bad sh*t on facebook, etc., and nothing to do with Biden.

[Gun Smoke]

Togor if the democrats taught us anything at all it is that our constitution doesn't mean a flying s**t to them. They even say so.

If they end up controlling the oval office, the house and the senate at one time our constitution, bill of rights and laws will become distant memories.

Don't you understand what socialism is and that it does not work? We do.

[togor]

Togor if the democrats taught us anything at all it is that our constitution doesn't mean a flying s**t to them. They even say so.

If they end up controlling the oval office, the house and the senate at one time our constitution, bill of rights and laws will become distant memories.

Don't you understand what socialism is and that it does not work? We do.

Well you keep saying stuff but simple facts back me up, not you.

After Newtown, when a nut job butchers little kids, the collective national mood, re: gun control was "meh". Obama cried, for Pete's sake, because there was nothing he could do while still following the law.

Now as for respecting the Constitution, or not, there's Trump. After Las Vegas, he told his DOJ he wanted bump stocks gone--that kind of shooting was an obvious threat to his industry--and where the Obama administration read the statutes conservatively, and saw bump stocks as an add-on, Trump's people said, "nah, MG part" and that was that. And the base? Nary a murmur.

So YOU tell ME who respects the Constitution when it comes to guns.

And it occurs to me, maybe that's the root of the problem. Trump's people have come to accept the idea that laws are optional for politicians (but certainly still a cudgel for keeping poor people in line). That would explain their complete indifference to Trump's violations of the Constitution for personal gain, concurrent with this desire to see cops smash and prisons fill with anyone wearing a BLM T-shirt. They assume that Democrats, when they regain control, will be as indifferent to the statutes as Trump's people are. Okay that makes sense to me that people see it that way but I don't agree with it, that it would go that way.

[Gun Smoke]

Obama did nothing. It was the BATF who OK'd the bump stocks. It was pressure from the democrat house that ended them.

Still, we are speaking of a small piece of plastic vs an actual firearm. ALL THE DEMOCRATS want full gun confiscation. NO REPUBLICANS want any form of gun control.

As said before: "you must really by proud to be a part of this".

[togor]

Obama did nothing. It was the BATF who OK'd the bump stocks. It was pressure from the democrat house that ended them.

Still, we are speaking of a small piece of plastic vs an actual firearm. ALL THE DEMOCRATS want full gun confiscation. NO REPUBLICANS want any form of gun control.

As said before: "you must really by proud to be a part of this".

So let me get this straight.....the Democrats in the House/Senate Minority forced Trump to ban bump stocks by executive fiat?

Did they have their hand up his arse like puppet-masters when Trump said "first take away the guns, then worry about due process"?

Your arguments are beliefs untethered from reality.

But let's cut to the chase. Say Biden wins, and the Democrats take back the Senate. Are you going to unload your semi-autos at cut-rate prices in order to get something for them? Or more broadly, is the market for ARs going to crater in anticipation of ban/confiscation? The best bet answers are "no" and "no".

[Gun Smoke]

I keep forgetting you live under a rock. Have you already forgotten about all the hell raising the democrats did after the Vegas shooting? Trump, not seeing any need in the bump stocks had them banned due to all pressure from the house. The democrats are the ones who praised the ban a victory for them.

No to giving up any guns----period. I feel I speak for many of us.

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I've asked people how this feared confiscation comes off as a practical matter. Nobody has an answer, so that should tell people something.

Confiscation will get shot down by a Trump judge unless something big happens to scare the bejeezus out everybody.

So you want Biden elected but want your guns protected by the Republicans, a Trump judge in this case.

[togor]

You didn't find the Vegas shooting diabolical? Hmm....Okay. Kind of sets the gauge on you, good to know.

But the Democrats controlled no branch of government at that time, and bear no credit/responsibility for anything the Trump admin said or did in the aftermath.

[Gun Smoke]

But the Democrats controlled no branch of government at that time, and bear no credit/responsibility for anything the Trump admin said or did in the aftermath.

That don't keep their yaps shut.