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  • Gun Smoke
    Banned
    • Sep 2019
    • 1658

    #76
    Originally posted by togor
    Obviously there are individual exceptions who do not succeed in passing on their genes to another generation, but every species including ours is hardwired to reproduce. If that was true in our hand-to-mouth days of hunting and gathering, it's surely going to be true in the days of mass automated agriculture. In fact, growth-oriented business types are counting on it, because population growth is what automatically fuels economic growth.

    You can shake your fist all you want at young people, but notice there are none here on a Friday night. They all have better things to do!!

    And it's your own party that is creating the problems. By opposing living wages, birth control, a woman's right to choose. It's the liberals who want better access to family planning, living wages for the working poor, so that the kids can actually learn something in school and go on to make a contribution later in life.
    It's people of your party that's squirting them out like there's no tomorrow.

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #77
      Originally posted by togor
      It's the liberals who want better access to family planning...
      Every woman on welfare has Medicaid, which means FREE birth control & family planning--most of them DON'T WANT IT, because it means less money in their checks.

      It's an obvious LIE to say that irresponsible breeding is "hardwired," or the birth-rate in advanced countries wouldn't be declining, except among the degenerate Turd World scum that have invaded those countries & are replacing the native pops.

      Here's something else hardwired into human behavior: reward bad behavior, & it's certain you'll GET MORE OF IT!

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #78
        Originally posted by clintonhater
        Every woman on welfare has Medicaid, which means FREE birth control & family planning--most of them DON'T WANT IT, because it means less money in their checks.

        It's an obvious LIE to say that irresponsible breeding is "hardwired," or the birth-rate in advanced countries wouldn't be declining, except among the degenerate Turd World scum that have invaded those countries & are replacing the native pops.

        Here's something else hardwired into human behavior: reward bad behavior, & it's certain you'll GET MORE OF IT!
        Boil it down a little further, you're almost there.

        F*cking is hardwired into the species. Left to its own devices, babies result.

        You can't tell me that the right is actually interested in seeing fewer babies born. Sure, they might like to see fewer babies born on welfare, but that's not really at the top of the discussion regarding the next Supreme Court nominee, is it? It's about seeing more babies born, regardless of circumstances. Right wing social engineering. They're hoping their hour has finally struck. In this instance, your quarrel is really not with the liberals.
        Last edited by togor; 10-10-2020, 04:51.

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        • clintonhater
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 5220

          #79
          Originally posted by togor

          You can't tell me that the right is actually interested in seeing fewer babies born.
          Yes they are, because they know whites CAN'T win a breeding war against their inferiors--those brought up in a culture of irresponsibility, "if it feels good, do it."

          Opponents of abortion (which I'm NOT) don't necessarily want more births, they want the brainless bitches getting the abortions to practice birth control so the abortion won't be necessary.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #80
            Originally posted by clintonhater
            Opponents of abortion (which I'm NOT) don't necessarily want more births, they want the brainless bitches getting the abortions to practice birth control so the abortion won't be necessary.
            That's not how it looks to me.

            What I'm seeing out of the social conservatives is: get rid of abortions by criminalizing the practice. Not: reduce abortions by preventing unwanted pregnancies. More live births certainly seems to be the objective, doesn't it? In a keep 'em barefoot and pregnant spirit?
            Last edited by togor; 10-10-2020, 08:08.

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            • blackhawknj
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 3754

              #81
              The illegitimacy rate of 40% in this country is not due to lack of proper sex education, access to birth control but to taxpayer subsidized promiscuity and irresponsibility. William Raspberry once wrote of the teenage pregnancy problem that "it emancipated them and makes them eligible for welfare and other benefits in their own name,"

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #82
                No.

                People choosing not to get married.



                There's an argument that a growing class division is part of it, that poor people feel like they can't do it.

                Even calling kids born out of wedlock "illegitimate" shows a stigma-oriented mindset.

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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #83
                  Originally posted by blackhawknj
                  The illegitimacy rate of 40% in this country is not due to lack of proper sex education, access to birth control but to taxpayer subsidized promiscuity and irresponsibility. William Raspberry once wrote of the teenage pregnancy problem that "it emancipated them and makes them eligible for welfare and other benefits in their own name,"
                  Dead on. Years ago, liberals used to be outraged by statements like that, "NO woman would get pregnant just to get welfare!!"

                  Until it got painfully obvious they were dead wrong.

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #84
                    Originally posted by blackhawknj
                    William Raspberry once wrote of the teenage pregnancy problem that "it emancipated them and makes them eligible for welfare and other benefits in their own name,"
                    A 14 or 15 yr old girl (or maybe 13!) tired of being told what to do, who she can go out with, etc., can by the simple expedient of doing what she likes to do anyway, get her own apartment, spending money, food stamps, etc.! How crazy would she have to be NOT to take our welfare state up on that generous offer? And to a teenage girl used to begging her single mother (or grand-mother!)) for a dollar or two, her monthly welfare check, pocket change to a middle class lib, would seem to her a FORTUNE! All her's & nobody to tell her how to spend it!

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #85
                      Originally posted by clintonhater
                      A 14 or 15 yr old girl (or maybe 13!) tired of being told what to do, who she can go out with, etc., can by the simple expedient of doing what she likes to do anyway, get her own apartment, spending money, food stamps, etc.! How crazy would she have to be NOT to take our welfare state up on that generous offer? And to a teenage girl used to begging her single mother (or grand-mother!)) for a dollar or two, her monthly welfare check, pocket change to a middle class lib, would seem to her a FORTUNE! All her's & nobody to tell her how to spend it!


                      Table 1.

                      The thing you are describing is not occurring at a meaningful rate, and such rate continues to decline.

                      Demographically, the opposite is occurring, not enough live births to sustain the population. Trouble is, population growth is baked into how our society is organized. Some conservatives see this, say banning abortion is a sure-fire way to increase live births, but if that occurs in a society that uses such births as punishment, then that's a terrible idea. Baby as punishment? What kind of person will they grow up to be?

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                        Years ago, liberals used to be outraged by statements like that, "NO woman would get pregnant just to get welfare!!"

                        Until it got painfully obvious they were dead wrong.
                        Why do you think it's painfully obvious to THEM now? Rich libs inhabit a world so remote from the lives of poor & working people that they can't CONCEIVE the way they think, their outlook on life! The same rich libs who were laughing about Trump while they were dressing for Hillary's victory bash!

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #87
                          Originally posted by clintonhater
                          Why do you think it's painfully obvious to THEM now? Rich libs inhabit a world so remote from the lives of poor & working people that they can't CONCEIVE the way they think, their outlook on life! The same rich libs who were laughing about Trump while they were dressing for Hillary's victory bash!
                          It's obvious because so many people know the truth, and have so thoroughly refuted the liberal position. They tend to stay away from the subject these days.

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #88
                            Locally a farmer who to my knowledge has NEVER put up a political sign in the 20 years that I have been traveling this road did something remarkable. He has some land that two acres border one of the main roads and this past week he cleared the heavy brush. He placed several LARGE Trump signs on it, I was quite surprised. More and more Trump signs/flags are appearing. Many people have Trump flags flying from their truck beds along with American flags. Not only do I see this here in Ohio but across the river in WV. Locally the President is very popular, what about other AO's?
                            Sam

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #89
                              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                              Locally a farmer who to my knowledge has NEVER put up a political sign in the 20 years that I have been traveling this road did something remarkable. He has some land that two acres border one of the main roads and this past week he cleared the heavy brush. He placed several LARGE Trump signs on it, I was quite surprised. More and more Trump signs/flags are appearing. Many people have Trump flags flying from their truck beds along with American flags. Not only do I see this here in Ohio but across the river in WV. Locally the President is very popular, what about other AO's?
                              Sam
                              Trump will carry Arkansas by at least 60%. Trump hats, signs, flags and so on are everywhere.

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                              • Roadkingtrax
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 7835

                                #90
                                How much space exists between those political signs is probably a better indicator of the overall popularity of a particular candidate.

                                It's nice to see them out in the open.
                                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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