NORKs Have A True ICBM Now

[S.A. Boggs]

I've explained as gently as I can, when you hate someone like that, you give them control of your mind. Trump plays him and the other haters like a cheap harmonica.

If a "trained engineer" did the work this rocket will explode on launch or before.
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

If a "trained engineer" did the work this rocket will explode on launch or before.
Sam

Unless the "trained engineer" explodes first. I've tried to explain, building up all that bile is a recipe for disaster.

[SUPERX-M1]

So, where does MAD enter into the Koreans and the USA calculations?

I suppose that the Koreans might launch if pushed into a corner or if their leader was attacked or an attempt made to depose him.

Edit: MAD would make it suicide for N. Korea ,to a greater or lesser degree , depending on how large usa retaliatory strike was, but there is probably a fair chance that they would launch anyway. Who would oppose the great leader?

[Vern Humphrey]

So, where does MAD enter into the Koreans and the USA calculations?

I suppose that the Koreans might launch if pushed into a corner or if their leader was attacked or an attempt made to depose him.

If North Korea fired a nuke at us, our retaliatory strike would be on the way before their missile reached coast phase.

You may remember a few years back, the Chinese launched a satellite and shot it down -- a trick to astonish and amaze.

Shortly after, the United States announced that one of our satellites was was in a decaying orbit and for safety sake, shot it down with a Standard missile from an Aegis cruiser. The Chinese puckered up so bad they couldn't crap for a month.

[Major Tom]

All show, no go!

[m1ashooter]

A bit like saying one shouldn't believe in their nuclear delivery capabilities until they put a mushroom cloud over a US city. That is, focusing on the last steps, not the first ones, is a mistake.

No not really. The development of accurate ICBM takes a lot of R+D, one must engine test and flight test them before you can start production. Then there is the flight testing of the BUS. When one sees this type of activity then its time to take a look at the project. Besides it doesn't matter who our President is the North Koreans are going to do what ever their masters in China allow them to do.

[Vern Humphrey]

No not really. The development of accurate ICBM takes a lot of R+D, one must engine test and flight test them before you can start production. Then there is the flight testing of the BUS. When one sees this type of activity then its time to take a look at the project. Besides it doesn't matter who our President is the North Koreans are going to do what ever their masters in China allow them to do.

Ah, but he has to blame Trump -- when you hate, you need to constantly feed your hatred.

[togor]

No not really. The development of accurate ICBM takes a lot of R+D, one must engine test and flight test them before you can start production. Then there is the flight testing of the BUS. When one sees this type of activity then its time to take a look at the project. Besides it doesn't matter who our President is the North Koreans are going to do what ever their masters in China allow them to do.

These things are happening. There was a time when the prospect of NK holding a nuclear blade at our throat was wholly unacceptable to "conservatives". But I guess people can get used to anything if they put their mind to it, right?

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Ah, but he has to blame Trump -- when you hate, you need to constantly feed your hatred.

Trump is brain dead incompetent. To see that and not be moved to action is even worse incompetence.

[clintonhater]

These things are happening. There was a time when the prospect of NK holding a nuclear blade at our throat was wholly unacceptable to "conservatives". But I guess people can get used to anything if they put their mind to it, right?

No conservative accepts it, but what can be DONE about it that wouldn't bring about the destruction of S Korea? Trump walked out of his last meeting with Kim for that reason. And sullen & unpredictable as Kim is, it's obvious to anybody but mad-dog Trump-haters that relations are FAR better than they were a few yrs ago because Kim values the recognition he got by meeting Trump, & doesn't want to blow it by the extreme provocations of the past, like sinking the SK ship.

Iran, on the other hand, hasn't advanced YET to acquiring the weapons of NK, & could be destroyed without bringing about the destruction of any neighboring country, but the libs oppose Trump's sanctions!

[togor]

LOL, no conservative accepts it, but what can be done? Definition of doubletalk. Another sign that the movement has reached the intellectual dead end point of the life cycle.

[S.A. Boggs]

LOL, no conservative accepts it, but what can be done? Definition of doubletalk. Another sign that the movement has reached the intellectual dead end point of the life cycle.

Thank you Togey for your Sigmund moment again, and again, and Infinium.
Sam

[rayg]

LOL, no conservative accepts it, but what can be done? Definition of doubletalk. Another sign that the movement has reached the intellectual dead end point of the life cycle.

And you are the king of double talk!...

[clintonhater]

LOL, no conservative accepts it, but what can be done? Definition of doubletalk.

The definition of double-talk is pretending you know a better strategy, but refusing to say what it might be.

NK could be wiped off the map, but SK will go with it, along with the US forces on the border.

[Vern Humphrey]

The definition of double-talk is pretending you know a better strategy, but refusing to say what it might be.

He's a double-plus good duck speaker.
(Apologies to George Orwell.)

[m1ashooter]

Actually nothing can be done short of war to prevent the North Koreans from developing a ICBM with a working warhead. Every administration in my life time has tried and failed. Again if I was a betting man I'd bet that the CHICOMS are using the North Korean Missile Program as a front to develop their own ICBM program. You never hear of any news about the CHICOM program yet they have one.