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  • SUPERX-M1
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 224

    #1

    Carry hi cap pistol +mags due to current events

    Watched Paul Harrell video where he rec above, over a revolver and spare loads. Said old scenario was car jacking, robbery, rape, assault and home invasion. New scenario is for mob to drag their victim from car or pick out a vic and assault vic.

    Prob wise to keep very low profile, and stay out of some areas. I am told that side car windows shatter easily. Open carry might deter or attract violence.
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11270

    #2
    not an expert, and of course state laws all vary,

    however besides low profile, head on a swivel, etc,

    may be better to carry what you are comfortable with, and have practiced/ trained with,

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      I go with an M1911 (a Kimber Custom Classic -- their basic pistol 25 years ago) with an 8-round mag plus one up the spout. I carry two 10-round extended magazines.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11270

        #4
        I have a varied lot of carry options,

        sometimes a J frame or a Seecamp in the pocket,

        sometimes a Colt Commander or SIG (220 or 228) on the hip

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          Originally posted by lyman
          I have a varied lot of carry options,

          sometimes a J frame or a Seecamp in the pocket,

          sometimes a Colt Commander or SIG (220 or 228) on the hip
          Have you tried a pancake holster? They hold the gun in tight and high on the hip.

          You can, by the way, easily convert a pancake holster into an IWB tuckable. Punch two holes in the toe of the holster, one on either side of the muzzle. Make two "reverse-J hooks" of Kydex and attach them with Chicago screws (post screws) through the holes.

          Shove the holster between pants and skin, and the reverse-J hooks slide down over the belt and lock in place. Tuck your shirt into the space between the upper holster and your pants, then blouse your shirt all around -- that is pull out a couple of inches of cloth and let it hang naturally.

          With this approach, a .45 automatic completely disappears.

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8570

            #6
            For the last several years I have carried a Sig P220 + 4 additional mags. Next to Sigmund is pepper spray and during bad weather I use an aluminum walking staff to steady myself. Collapsed to the right length the staff doubles as a lightweight baton. The baton/Pr-24 was readily taught to us at the academy. Years ago I asked one of my perps if he would miss with a rattlesnake and his answer was "F... No!"
            Between the election and Trumps oath as President I am greatly concerned.
            Sam

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11270

              #7
              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
              Have you tried a pancake holster? They hold the gun in tight and high on the hip.

              You can, by the way, easily convert a pancake holster into an IWB tuckable. Punch two holes in the toe of the holster, one on either side of the muzzle. Make two "reverse-J hooks" of Kydex and attach them with Chicago screws (post screws) through the holes.

              Shove the holster between pants and skin, and the reverse-J hooks slide down over the belt and lock in place. Tuck your shirt into the space between the upper holster and your pants, then blouse your shirt all around -- that is pull out a couple of inches of cloth and let it hang naturally.

              With this approach, a .45 automatic completely disappears.
              all I have are Pancake style, tho I do have one more traditional for a 1911 and a high power that I used when I hunted, (haven't worn them in years)


              the Pancakes fit me better, and tuck the firearms up tight to me,

              comfortable too,

              I have a Galco, Bianchi and a El Paso, all nice and broke in


              but if I am in shorts and a shirt,, then the J frame or Seecamp are in the front pocket

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              • bdm
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 613

                #8
                I have been thinking about carrying a pistol it is getting bad here always was a nice quiet town slum lords have been buying a lot of run down houses and getting them ready for rent for section 8 renters from the city bad people coming there have been shootings gangs the crips the bloods and other gangs

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8570

                  #9
                  The problem with a hip holster is drawing from the sitting position and the "printing" of it. I have a 50 year old Tom Threepersons that the S.D. Myers Saddle Company made for me and my 1911, very comfortable and stout! I have found the shoulder rig more comfortable, easy to access and easy to put on/off. I have gotten so use to wearing my rig that I don't notice it is there. If needed I can always use the "Fred Sanford" reach and pull!
                  Sam

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11270

                    #10
                    if I am in the car, or truck, the one on my hip or in my pocket is not the one I would draw, (as in I often have a vehicle gun)

                    and the way I wear them (just in front of the wallet) is not heard to draw sitting,

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8570

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      if I am in the car, or truck, the one on my hip or in my pocket is not the one I would draw, (as in I often have a vehicle gun)

                      and the way I wear them (just in front of the wallet) is not heard to draw sitting,
                      I carry my wallet in my left front pocket to avoid problems. People "lose" the wallet out of a hip pocket, been doing the front carry for 40 years now. I had lost one before while sliding out of a truck and now not a problem.
                      Sam

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bdm
                        I have been thinking about carrying a pistol it is getting bad here always was a nice quiet town slum lords have been buying a lot of run down houses and getting them ready for rent for section 8 renters from the city bad people coming there have been shootings gangs the crips the bloods and other gangs
                        To quote a member of this board, "If you don't have a concealed handgun license, GET one! If you have one and don't ALWAYS carry, START."

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                        • Art
                          Senior Member, Deceased
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9256

                          #13
                          I enjoy Paul Harrell, I think he makes a lot of sense. Like me Harrell is a traditionalist in a lot of ways, but I did see the video mentioned in the OP and know where he is coming from.

                          Soooo, how I carry.

                          I always carry when I am away from my neighborhood or at night. I realize that the person most likely to try to victimize me is going to be a 17 - 25 year old in my neighborhood though and I should probably carry every time I walk out my door. My usual carry gun is a S&W Model 640 loaded with 110 gr. Remington .357 Magnum semi jacketed hollow points in a paddle or pancake holster. On long trips I sometimes carry an S&W Model 28 loaded with Rem. .357 Magnum 125 gr. SJHP ammo in a pancake holster also. I carry both of them under safari vests or a light coat. I never have enough pockets it seems I also have decades of training drawing from under a jacket so this works for me. Neither gun"prints" in this set up. If I carry a semi auto it's the very early version of the Springfield Armory HD (HS 2000) in a pancake holster loaded with Speer 124 gr. +P Gold Dots. My belts are all Tucker & Byrd 1 3/4". A good stiff belt that won't sag or roll makes carrying any pistol a whole lot easier. When I carry the "big iron" I barely notice because of the belt.

                          One of the easier to access holsters if you know you're going to be sitting down most of the time is, surprisingly, an ankle holster. I know its counter intuitive but I've found it to be true. Cross draws work well but the butt of your pistol is presented to a person in front of you so security can be a bit more problematic.
                          Last edited by Art; 10-20-2020, 05:14.

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                          • RED
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11689

                            #14
                            I don't want trouble and I go out of my way to avoid hot spots. When wearing blue jeans and a knit polo shirt, I carry a S&W 838 in my right front jeans pocket when I'm at the grocery store or a Lowes. And yes, I can fire it still pocketed. When I wear a bit more clothes the 838 is replaced by a HK USPC .40 and a spare 12 rd mag in my left front pocket. I also keep a CZ-83 in my console with two mags. I still haven't found a holster I like.

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                            • lyman
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11270

                              #15
                              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                              I carry my wallet in my left front pocket to avoid problems. People "lose" the wallet out of a hip pocket, been doing the front carry for 40 years now. I had lost one before while sliding out of a truck and now not a problem.
                              Sam
                              I tried a wallet in the front pocket, don't care for it,

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                              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                              To quote a member of this board, "If you don't have a concealed handgun license, GET one! If you have one and don't ALWAYS carry, START."
                              +1

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