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  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #16
    Originally posted by clintonhater
    Probably U. S. Grant, with Sherman the runner-up; furthermore, they killed them as they were defending their own land, not invading the North.
    Yeah, but without the war, Vern's uncle couldn't have invented cannonballs.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #17
      Originally posted by clintonhater
      Probably U. S. Grant, with Sherman the runner-up; furthermore, they killed them as they were defending their own land, not invading the North.
      Actually, Grant also gave amnesty to the Confederate officers -- with Lincoln's enthusiastic support. That was probably his greatest accomplishment. Under the terms he gave Lee, the Confederates were allowed to return to their homes "and remain there unmolested." That set the precedent for other surrenders.

      Grant was one of only two officers in the Civil War who had strategic sense (the other was Winfield Scott.) He understood the true goal of the war was to restore the Union, with the former Confederate States rejoining. And he knew the way to do that was to be magnanimous in victory, not vindictive -- something many people these days seem not to understand.

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #18
        Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
        Yeah, but without the war, Vern's uncle couldn't have invented cannonballs.
        Vern's uncle was Al Gore?

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #19
          Originally posted by Gun Smoke
          Vern's uncle was Al Gore?
          My first cousin, three times removed, was Milton Wylie Humphrey, who on the 19th of May, 1863, at the Battle of Fayetteville (WVA), used indirect fire to shoot over a grove of trees and drop shells on Union gunners on the other side.



          'My piece opened first and was immediately answered, and my third or fourth round cutting away the Yankee colors, they shelled us so vigorously and accurately with several guns that we were compelled to move to a place nearby where we could not be seen for the timber in front of us and the smoke behind us rising from the woods beyond the road which were on fire.'

          This was a perfect opportunity for Humphreys to try his theory of indirect fire. He knew that the fort was approximately a mile away. From experience, he knew the range of his cannon. By using trigonometry, he calculated how far he would have to elevate the muzzle of his piece to shoot over the stand of black pines in front of him and drop a shell into the vicinity of the fort. The distance from the gun to the fort formed the base of a triangle; the trajectory of the shell was the hypotenuse. Once the shell expended its momentum, it would drop to earth.


          This was the first use of indirect fire in combat.

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          • Roadkingtrax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 7835

            #20
            He also invented the question mark.
            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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            • clintonhater
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 5220

              #21
              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
              Actually, Grant also gave amnesty to the Confederate officers -- with Lincoln's enthusiastic support.
              I know, but before that happened, how many poor Southern boys defending their homeland did he send to their graves?

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              • Gun Smoke
                Banned
                • Sep 2019
                • 1658

                #22
                It's a shame that George Floyd didn't have COVID-19 at the time of his death because THAT'S what would have been listed as the cause of death and all this BLM, rioting, murders, burning, and other democrat inspired events wouldn't have happened.

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                  It's a shame that George Floyd didn't have COVID-19 at the time of his death because THAT'S what would have been listed as the cause of death and all this BLM, rioting, murders, burning, and other democrat inspired events wouldn't have happened.
                  Absolutely! Because an asymptomatic individual in Fl killed in an auto accident tested positive at the hospital, death was listed as Kung Flu--because fed money reimburses the hospital at a higher rate for Wuhan than for other mortalities. ANYTHING to maintain the hysteria at fever-pitch!

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                  • PWC
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1366

                    #24
                    Originally posted by clintonhater
                    I know, but before that happened, how many poor Southern boys defending their homeland did he send to their graves?
                    Stupid question.....ranks right up there with "how many Germans/Japanese defending their homeland did we send to their ggraves?"

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8568

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                      Who killed more Americans?
                      Democrats with their racist policies of keeping blacks on government plantations.
                      Sam

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11268

                        #26
                        Originally posted by PWC
                        Stupid question.....ranks right up there with "how many Germans/Japanese defending their homeland did we send to their ggraves?"
                        +1

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #27
                          +2

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                          • Gun Smoke
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 1658

                            #28
                            Originally posted by PWC
                            Stupid question.....ranks right up there with "how many Germans/Japanese defending their homeland did we send to their ggraves?"
                            This WAS Americans vs Americans though. Brother against brother. It was over secession not gain of another country. A little different.

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                            • clintonhater
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 5220

                              #29
                              Originally posted by PWC
                              Stupid question.....ranks right up there with "how many Germans/Japanese defending their homeland did we send to their ggraves?"
                              Stupid answer. Germans/Japanese invaded OTHER countries, Southern states just wanted to be left alone, not impose their control over other states.

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                              • Gun Smoke
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 1658

                                #30
                                Originally posted by clintonhater
                                Stupid answer. Germans/Japanese invaded OTHER countries, Southern states just wanted to be left alone, not impose their control over other states.
                                They were also fed up with the taxation imposed upon them. Early days of socialism.

                                " The South produced and exported most of the goods in America, and under the tariff, that resulted in the South paying about 75% of all taxes in America."

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