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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    If Trump loses he can only blame himself

    He can only blame his loss on himself...His ranting and name calling has turned too many people off that will not vote for him this time. I know folks who couldn't stand him because of the above but held their nose and voted for him because of what he accomplished.. However! I also know others who chose this time not to vote for him because of his demeanor and un professional behavior unbecoming for a President of a nation. And I sure the same only promoted more Democrats to vote.

    Trumps problem was that he had been the big boss for many years in businesses where he could say and act however he wanted.. Politics is not like that....You need to appeal to the people not only with ideas but your personality..
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    +1

    He'll blame everyone but himself, including his voters. He had the ability to get reelected.
    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 11-06-2020, 07:27.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • SUPERX-M1
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 224

      #3
      Trump is a narcissistic psychopath and is incapable of seeing himself as he is or others as they actually are. Other people are there only to serve and be used by him. That includes you. He is not capable of blaming himself, only others. My opinion.

      And now, perhaps, we are stuck with Harris Biden Pelosi. A few articles have said that the Dems , win or lose, are in for a rough four years. I hope so. I hope the Dems do not damage the country and the people. It is worth noting tho that The Donald has not always been good for the country, part of the reason that he may lose.

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        Ray I would say government service isn't supposed to be like that. It's not just politics. It's not over yet, but come some day in December if the EC votes and Biden wins, then I guess it will be.

        Anyone who can decode the ongoing political realignment soonest stands to reap considerable benefit in elections to come.

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        • clintonhater
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 5220

          #5
          Not himself, not even the Dems, are chiefly to blame, the outcome of this election has been wholly determined by the utterly corrupt & malicious national MEDIA, mainly TV, but also internet sources, working passionately & relentlessly for 4 yrs to demonize him & everything he's tried to do. The opinions of the ignorant sheep who form most of the US pop are formed almost entirely by what they see (or don't see, in the case of BLM riots) on TV, & for 4 yrs they've seen nothing but the "horrible" things Trump has tried to do, like exclude ragheads, or put little greaser brats in jail cells (the ones built by Obammy, but that's a secret!).

          America's great "free press"--the most corrupt & unscrupulous institution in this country!

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11268

            #6
            Originally posted by clintonhater
            Not himself, not even the Dems, are chiefly to blame, the outcome of this election has been wholly determined by the utterly corrupt & malicious national MEDIA, mainly TV, but also internet sources, working passionately & relentlessly for 4 yrs to demonize him & everything he's tried to do. The opinions of the ignorant sheep who form most of the US pop are formed almost entirely by what they see (or don't see, in the case of BLM riots) on TV, & for 4 yrs they've seen nothing but the "horrible" things Trump has tried to do, like exclude ragheads, or put little greaser brats in jail cells (the ones built by Obammy, but that's a secret!).

            America's great "free press"--the most corrupt & unscrupulous institution in this country!
            lot of truth here, and they are still on it,


            when a newsperson feels the need to correct (in their opinioin) or contradict anyone, during the broadcast, then they stopped being a news person and became a pundit,

            the news should report the news, and let the person listening decide,


            if he loses, it will be because the media has done a bang up job driving home the OMB theme,

            lots did not vote for biden, but against trump, cause ,, feelings,

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            • 7.62match
              Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 55

              #7
              If he loses it is because illegal voters and the dead voted .

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              • mr.j
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 141

                #8

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  If reporters, in writing or video, aren't allowed to fact-check, then who is? I see nothing wrong with calling BS on something at the wholesale level, instead of forcing each listener to do the same, with far fewer resources. I know that blizzards of BS appealing to raw emotions have been an effective messaging strategy for Trump, and people calling BS on him is frustrating, but a few points:

                  1. It's a reporters 1A right to call it like they see it,

                  2. If they're wrong, and Rudy is right, then let Rudy G. or Don Jr. prove it and claim the victory.

                  3. Honest messaging is the best long term strategy for effective governing.

                  Even if people disagree on points 1 & 2, there should be no disagreement on the last.
                  Last edited by togor; 11-06-2020, 07:30.

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    when a newsperson feels the need to correct (in their opinioin) or contradict anyone, during the broadcast, then they stopped being a news person and became a pundit,
                    A thousand times I've heard them say "the President lied" about something, or bring in radical Trump-haters to contradict whatever he's said. Does ANYBODY in the country support Trump, except a few white racists? You'd never know it by watching TV news.

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #11
                      exactly,


                      no real journalism any longer,


                      all opinion, no news,

                      granted the TV personalities are put there to READ the news,

                      someone they got mixed up and starting dictating opinions,


                      and in before the Hurr Durr, Fox News,,, BS

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                      • rayg
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 7444

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        lot of truth here, and they are still on it,


                        when a newsperson feels the need to correct (in their opinioin) or contradict anyone, during the broadcast, then they stopped being a news person and became a pundit,

                        the news should report the news, and let the person listening decide,


                        if he loses, it will be because the media has done a bang up job driving home the OMB theme,

                        lots did not vote for biden, but against trump, cause ,, feelings,
                        100% agree with your post also...But Trump gave the news the ammunition to use to discredit him. They would of have had a harder time if he had been more professional in his demeanor.. Calling people funny names, might have been funny to him and some people..But it turned off a lot of people as not being very Presidential....There were other things also.. Anyway it's over and he will be history soon...Too bad as I thought despite these short comings, he did a good job for the country..But he has himself to blame for turning a lot of voters against him.

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                        • Sandpebble
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 2196

                          #13
                          My big fear is that on losing the Big Petulant Child will now spend the next two months seeking revenge ....which will be bad for all of us.

                          That petulance and ignorant arrogance is what got him outed..... along with never being able to pass muster over a Fact Check .

                          sorry gents, but these past four years were never about you.....

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                          • clintonhater
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 5220

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sandpebble
                            My big fear is that on losing the Big Petulant Child will now spend the next two months seeking revenge ....which will be bad for all of us.
                            Not for me, & not for his followers! We HOPE he'll overlook no opportunity for revenge, because HIS enemies are OUR enemies, & that includes YOU.

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by clintonhater
                              Not for me, & not for his followers! We HOPE he'll overlook no opportunity for revenge, because HIS enemies are OUR enemies, & that includes YOU.
                              Kind of a "destroy the village to save it" thing?

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