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  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #16
    Originally posted by rayg
    Tell me were I am wrong? Biden has a socialist agenda and was backed by the socialist's ..Tell me were I am wrong.....
    Propaganda. Corporate socialism is alive an well in this administration.
    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 11-16-2020, 06:54.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • rayg
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7444

      #17
      You are a socialist are you not?

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #18
        Originally posted by rayg
        You are a socialist are you not?
        What's your definition?

        I like good roads, fire stations, libraries, and recycling programs. I guess that's the same thing.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          Originally posted by clintonhater
          What do you get if you fill a room with Liberals? A room that is 100% wrong about any subject you can imagine.
          That's a contrarian view.

          But the problem with being a contrarian is that you get stuck defending the leftover bad ideas that have failed to persuade a majority in the field. No wonder they tend to be cranky.

          Sometimes they turn out to be right, but usually not. A regime dedicated to blanket contrarianism on any subject of complexity is going to both have and make problems.

          Case in point....will the Iran and North Korea situations for Biden be better or worse than 2016? Both regimes still stand, and their A-bomb programs have advanced. Trump tried contrarian approaches, a hard line with the Persians, a soft line with the NORKs, and what does he have to show for it?
          Last edited by togor; 11-16-2020, 07:51.

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          • m1ashooter
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 3220

            #20
            I listened to his video and I say from my view point he is correct.
            To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #21
              Originally posted by togor
              That's a contrarian view.

              But the problem with being a contrarian is that you get stuck defending the leftover bad ideas that have failed to persuade a majority in the field. No wonder they tend to be cranky.

              Sometimes they turn out to be right, but usually not. A regime dedicated to blanket contrarianism on any subject of complexity is going to both have and make problems.

              Case in point....will the Iran and North Korea situations for Biden be better or worse than 2016? Both regimes still stand, and their A-bomb programs have advanced. Trump tried contrarian approaches, a hard line with the Persians, a soft line with the NORKs, and what does he have to show for it?
              You continuing to complain and very loudly as usual.
              Sam

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              • blackhawknj
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 3754

                #22
                I like good roads, parks, libraries, national defense.
                I do not like welfare programs that subsidize promiscuity and irresponsibility, people with drinking and drug habits being declared "disabled", tacit encouragement of illegal immigration, schools that are on the one hand leftist indoctrination centers and on the other daycare centers for lazy and selfish parents.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #23
                  Originally posted by blackhawknj
                  I like good roads, parks, libraries, national defense.
                  I do not like welfare programs that subsidize promiscuity and irresponsibility, people with drinking and drug habits being declared "disabled", tacit encouragement of illegal immigration, schools that are on the one hand leftist indoctrination centers and on the other daycare centers for lazy and selfish parents.
                  Many valid points,

                  But many of them do cut across political boundaries, as you must surely know.

                  It's often the blue collar, red-voting parents who show the least interest in their child's academic progress, as treating school like a party "didn't hurt them none".
                  Last edited by togor; 11-16-2020, 11:25.

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                  • rayg
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 7444

                    #24
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Many valid points,

                    But many of them do cut across political boundaries, as you must surely know.

                    It's often the blue collar, red-voting parents who show the least interest in their child's academic progress, as treating school like a party "didn't hurt them none".
                    Oh come on..where do you get that crap...Prove your statement...

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #25
                      Originally posted by rayg
                      Oh come on..where do you get that crap...Prove your statement...
                      surely he has the stats to put up to prove it,

                      and I would like to see the Blue Collar/Blue Vote stats too

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #26
                        Originally posted by rayg
                        Oh come on..where do you get that crap...Prove your statement...
                        Ask teachers, and they'll tell you.

                        If they're super conservative and hard core on schoolwork these days, probably home schooled.

                        By-and-large the whole get-ahead-through-education concept of a meritocracy is predominantly a liberal notion these days. Many say they've taken it too far and I agree.

                        The Clintonian "anyone who wants to go to college should go" crap was a huge disservice to the country, coming as it did with trade policies that exported blue collar jobs overseas to unregulated and cheap labor markets.

                        As Trump is a disaster for the GOP, so was Bill Clinton for the Democrats.

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11268

                          #27
                          you must not know any teachers,,

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #28
                            Originally posted by lyman
                            you must not know any teachers,,
                            If you only knew!

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                            • S.A. Boggs
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 8568

                              #29
                              Originally posted by togor
                              If you only knew!
                              Did they "train" you as well in your position?
                              Sam

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                              • lyman
                                Administrator - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 11268

                                #30
                                Originally posted by togor
                                If you only knew!
                                so prove your statement,

                                the Teachers I know do not share the same sentiment,

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