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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #16
    Originally posted by Art
    Gee, I thought there was record turnout in all of those states. I must have missed something. In fact Trump took enough votes to have won any election in history except this one and still lost, sounds like a lot of Dems turned out for this one to me.
    The six key States colluded with and followed their Communist/Socialist masters and rigged the Dominion voting system. A Biden vote was counted as 1.25 and a Trump vote was counted as .75. All six swing States stopped counting votes at the same time their Masters dictated. In PA, Trump was ahead by 700,000 votes when the counting stopped, and behind 60,000 when the counting restarted.

    This election puts the USA into the turd world. The world that put dictators like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, Pot Paul, Chivez, Maduro, etc into power. That is where we are today. Joe Biden is a puppet, and Harris will soon follow and right now none of us foolish patriots have no inkling as to exactly who is pulling the strings.

    Within six months we will see the Democrats trash the Pfizer vaccine because it is connected to Trump. We will see gasoline at $6 per gallon. We will see the border totally open to anybody in the world that wants to have SS, welfare, Medicare etc. We will see empty grocery shelves because everybody is quarantined and there is nobody to produce, transport, and shelve our food. People who have their grandkids over for a birthday party will be jailed while violent rioters, looters, and burners are destroying private and government properties are cheered on. The new American Revolution is over and if you have a job, a car, and car insurance you are now a public nuisance and the ovens are waiting.

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    • Art
      Senior Member, Deceased
      • Dec 2009
      • 9256

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      You're equating Trump's actions with Abrams? In a literal sense or figurative?

      One of Abrams complaints about the 2018 Georgia Governor's election was that Kemp, her opponent and also the secretary of state, reduced the number of polling places in predominantly black areas. It's a fair reading to say that Kemp used his current job in 2018 to up his odds at getting the next one.

      Abrams didn't like the outcome but what did she do? Got busy doing the hard work of organizing, registering. That is, she stayed inside the lines, respected the game, even in Georgia where there is a documented history. Biden's triumph in Georgia is also hers. Read her bio. Nothing to disrespect there.

      What's Trump doing? Attacking the game itself, trying to bring it down, because he wants power.

      These are not close to being the same thing.

      However much one might love Trump's tax or immigration policies, his baseless attacks on elections themselves, which he does not even try to prove as fact, should arouse unrestrained wrath in any principled conservative.

      Added: this is within the lifetime of many here, how it was in Georgia.

      https://www.crmvet.org/info/gavr_training.pdf
      First, one of the most annoying aspects if leftist bigotry is blaming the children for the sins of the fathers. I don't see how anyone alive in Georgia today who isn't in at least their late 80s can have much responsibility for "Jim Crow" legislation. Sort of like Democrats in California going after Arnold Schwarzenegger because his father may, or may not have been a Nazi. Georgia is the state that elected Jimmy Carter its Governor in 1971 and sent him to the White House in 1979. I hardly think anyone could call Carter a racist. I notice the Dem won the state this time.

      Abrams lost by about 55,000 votes. That's not losing in a landslide but it isn't going to be reversed by recounts. She lost, she's never conceded the election, ask her today and she'll say she won. She is, in reality, attacking the game itself.

      In Georgia the decision as to which polling places are closed or open is made by the county not the state. Any polling place closures were made by county officials and not Gov. Kemp.
      Last edited by Art; 11-21-2020, 04:04.

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #18
        Okay Art I'll give it to you that Kemp did not close the polling places. But this is what Abrams is talking about:

        Election officials have closed 214 precincts in Georgia over the last six years, many of them in rural, poor and minority communities. The changes came in the wake of a U.S. Supreme Court decision that removed federal oversight of voting changes in Georgia and several other states.


        And Kemp did do this:

        https://www.apmreports.org/story/201...ecords-removed

        One of the things I've learned is that there is a given reason and a real reason. In this case, that we don't have enough money to man these polling stations. Reduction in state aid, maybe? The bottom line is that if you live in a poor Georgia county, it gets harder to vote, and if you life in a rich Georgia county, it doesn't. A politician who is trying to represent the poor is going to notice that. To the best of my knowledge, it's not illegal in America for the poor to participate in the political process. (Although we're all aware of the argument that they should be discouraged, lest they vote free stuff for themselves from the government).

        It was never a political requirement for Abrams to concede in order for the state to render its verdict on the winner on schedule. She did not try to tie the proceedings up in specious litigation. To use the game analogy, she argued a call, vociferously. But it's what she afterwards that ultimately matters, right? Got back to playing, and winning, within the rules. As you have posted repeatedly about the virtues of the Texas GOP improving its minority outreach, I'll hope you're objective enough to commend Abrams for the job she did, even as you disagree with her politics.

        Also since the SCOTUS decision removing the southern states from Voting Rghts Act constraints, there have been numerous changes in laws, the effect of which is to make it harder to vote. It's documented, if you feel like doing the search yourself (better than taking my word for it right?) So from Abrams perspective, these are not the sins of the fathers. But in the same paragraph, let's not overlook for a minute the performance of Brad Raffensberger. Georgia *did* go for Biden, and he didn't let the death threats or the vituperation from GOP politicians keep him from doing his job as the law required. Worth noting earlier in the election season the Democrats were almost as pissed at him (except for the death threats those are new). An election official in a tight contest with high stakes who has everyone pissed at him may well be doing his job right.
        Last edited by togor; 11-21-2020, 05:01.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          Originally posted by RED
          The six key States colluded with and followed their Communist/Socialist masters and rigged the Dominion voting system. A Biden vote was counted as 1.25 and a Trump vote was counted as .75. All six swing States stopped counting votes at the same time their Masters dictated. In PA, Trump was ahead by 700,000 votes when the counting stopped, and behind 60,000 when the counting restarted.

          This election puts the USA into the turd world. The world that put dictators like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, Pot Paul, Chivez, Maduro, etc into power. That is where we are today. Joe Biden is a puppet, and Harris will soon follow and right now none of us foolish patriots have no inkling as to exactly who is pulling the strings.

          Within six months we will see the Democrats trash the Pfizer vaccine because it is connected to Trump. We will see gasoline at $6 per gallon. We will see the border totally open to anybody in the world that wants to have SS, welfare, Medicare etc. We will see empty grocery shelves because everybody is quarantined and there is nobody to produce, transport, and shelve our food. People who have their grandkids over for a birthday party will be jailed while violent rioters, looters, and burners are destroying private and government properties are cheered on. The new American Revolution is over and if you have a job, a car, and car insurance you are now a public nuisance and the ovens are waiting.
          ^^^^^^You forgot the guns

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          • m1ashooter
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 3220

            #20
            Originally posted by togor
            Residents of Detroit, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Atlanta, feel like they're getting a refresher course in GOP latent racism and voter suppression. Texas has its own issues as well in that department.
            Spoken by a person who doesn't live in Texas. I live in Texas and I don't see what you are referring too.
            To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #21
              Originally posted by Sandpebble
              Thats right ... imagine if he'd tried to unite the American people instead of divide ..... he could have won us all..... but he didn't and he lost.;
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              UNITED SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS IN ACTION!
              Sam

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