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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    West Point cheating

    So did you see where 71 West Point plebes we’re caught violating the honor code?

    And how were they caught??? Answer, the honor code!

    The honor code goes like this: I WILL NOT LIE CHEAT OR STEAL, NOR WILL I TOLERATE THOSE WHO DO.

    That Code is part of the OfficerTraining in all the services. It was part of my training and I adopted it throughout my life.

    These freshmen plebes grew up in a society where lying, cheating, stealing, and ignoring those who do, were an acceptable part of life.

    Sound familiar? Same thing here!

    I’ve been accused of being the culprit of the ethical downfall of Jouster... all I was doing was refusing to tolerate cheaters, liars, and thieves.

    The difference is at West Point, (and other military officer training institutions) still accept the honor code as a institution.
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11269

    #2
    Originally posted by RED
    So did you see where 71 West Point plebes we’re caught violating the honor code?

    And how were they caught??? Answer, the honor code!

    The honor code goes like this: I WILL NOT LIE CHEAT OR STEAL, NOR WILL I TOLERATE THOSE WHO DO.

    That Code is part of the OfficerTraining in all the services. It was part of my training and I adopted it throughout my life.

    These freshmen plebes grew up in a society where lying, cheating, stealing, and ignoring those who do, were an acceptable part of life.

    Sound familiar? Same thing here!

    I’ve been accused of being the culprit of the ethical downfall of Jouster... all I was doing was refusing to tolerate cheaters, liars, and thieves.

    The difference is at West Point, (and other military officer training institutions) still accept the honor code as a institution.
    West Point, as you posted, has rules,


    here, you ignore the rules,

    so is that an acceptable part of life?

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    • RED
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11689

      #3
      Originally posted by lyman
      West Point, as you posted, has rules,


      here, you ignore the rules,

      so is that an acceptable part of life?
      I violate the rules because there is no other option when the wolves are at the door. They have no morals, all they have is hate. They claim they have the right to lie, cheat and steal because it is "free speech." It is free speech to lie about anything, especially if it is about Trump! Years of investigation PROVED there was no collusion by the Trump campaign. Yet the Stooges maintain there was.

      Liars, cheats, thieves, are miserable and irriatating but American hating traitors are allowed and enabled to spread their venom here. Sorry, that is indefensible.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11269

        #4
        Originally posted by RED
        I violate the rules because there is no other option when the wolves are at the door. They have no morals, all they have is hate. They claim they have the right to lie, cheat and steal because it is "free speech." It is free speech to lie about anything, especially if it is about Trump! Years of investigation PROVED there was no collusion by the Trump campaign. Yet the Stooges maintain there was.

        Liars, cheats, thieves, are miserable and irriatating but American hating traitors are allowed and enabled to spread their venom here. Sorry, that is indefensible.
        re read your first post, then re read your second,

        by the way,,


        read this

        http://www.jouster2.com/forums/forum...t-and-Politics



        so you are saying you are exempt from the rules?
        Last edited by lyman; 12-22-2020, 02:31.

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        • dogtag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 14985

          #5
          Red makes the forum interesting. I look forward to his rants.

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          • Sandpebble
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 2196

            #6
            Originally posted by dogtag
            Red makes the forum interesting. I look forward to his rants.
            I don't think he's interesting ... I think he's anti American.... and not all there.

            He's just posted " The honor code goes like this: I WILL NOT LIE CHEAT OR STEAL, NOR WILL I TOLERATE THOSE WHO DO. "

            yet protects Donald Trump , purveyor of fine lies.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #7
              Originally posted by Sandpebble
              I don't think he's interesting ... I think he's anti American.... and not all there.

              He's just posted " The honor code goes like this: I WILL NOT LIE CHEAT OR STEAL, NOR WILL I TOLERATE THOSE WHO DO. "

              yet protects Donald Trump , purveyor of fine lies.


              What about "honest" slo joe and his numerous plagiarism?
              Sam

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                Originally posted by Sandpebble
                I don't think he's interesting ... I think he's anti American.... and not all there.

                He's just posted " The honor code goes like this: I WILL NOT LIE CHEAT OR STEAL, NOR WILL I TOLERATE THOSE WHO DO. "

                yet protects Donald Trump , purveyor of fine lies.
                Who cares what you think
                Last edited by dogtag; 12-22-2020, 05:23.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11269

                  #9
                  cool it guys, please,

                  waiting for RED to answer

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                  • dogtag
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 14985

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    cool it guys, please,

                    waiting for RED to answer
                    Yeah, you're right. I toned it down, but he annoys me.

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                    • blackhawknj
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3754

                      #11
                      They've had various cheating scandals over the years. People don't attend the service academies to get an education but to join an alumni association.

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                      • m1ashooter
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 3220

                        #12
                        I'm a former USAF Office,r we were not trained with West Points honor system as mentioned by Red.. What I find interesting is West Point in my opinion is tolerating the cheating by putting some cadets on probation and not throwing them out of the academy. How is that living up to the will not tolerate part of the code.
                        To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11269

                          #13
                          Originally posted by blackhawknj
                          They've had various cheating scandals over the years. People don't attend the service academies to get an education but to join an alumni association.
                          I have heard this about that school, and several others

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                          • oscars
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 551

                            #14
                            There have been several theses papers submitted to the Air University comparing success rates of the various commissioning sources. Essentially, there were no differences among graduates of the AFA, ROTC or OCS, particularly in performance in UPT.

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                            • 7.62match
                              Member
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 55

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dogtag
                              Who cares what you think
                              +1

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