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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #1

    Economy

    Wonder what this will now do to the economy? Stock market going down any?
    Sam
  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #2
    Today's Stock Market has little to do with the general economy.
    It's more of a Poker game for multi millionaires.

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #3
      Originally posted by dogtag
      Today's Stock Market has little to do with the general economy.
      It's more of a Poker game for multi millionaires.
      Darn that leaves me out.
      Sam

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        Yeah, me too.
        I'm figuring inflation will be with us in the near future.
        Can't think of anything I desperately need right now, but
        if I do, I'll buy it before the price goes way up.
        Already have the basics - Food, Ammo, Cigars, booze and old movies.

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          Originally posted by dogtag
          Today's Stock Market has little to do with the general economy.
          It's more of a Poker game for multi millionaires.
          Which is clearly not true. Everyone who has an IRA or 401k is in the market -- there are a total of about 58 million people with 401ks -- the little people far outnumber the multi millionaires and have more money total in the market.

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          • dogtag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 14985

            #6
            Millions unemployed, Huge lines at food banks, Small businesses
            closing permanently, others hurting. millions sick, thousands dying,
            yet the stock market continues UP seemingly blissfully unaware
            of the misery down in realville.
            Yes, those lucky enough to still have 401s are doing OK, but
            nobody else is.

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            • bruce
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3759

              #7
              Luck has nothing to do with being in the stock market. It is a matter of discipline and time. Starting early and buying wisely, getting into good solid funds, paying attention to cues, not trying to get rich over night, etc. The stock market moves day by day based on what buyers consider worth buying and sellers are willing to sell. It is money talking saying what the buying public considers the value or lack there of for a particular business, industry, fund, etc. Since 1979 the market has done very well for individuals willing to act with discipline and a long term perspective. Absolutely amazing what consistent investment month by month over a working life will produce. Sincerely. bruce.
              " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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              • S.A. Boggs
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 8568

                #8
                Originally posted by bruce
                Luck has nothing to do with being in the stock market. It is a matter of discipline and time. Starting early and buying wisely, getting into good solid funds, paying attention to cues, not trying to get rich over night, etc. The stock market moves day by day based on what buyers consider worth buying and sellers are willing to sell. It is money talking saying what the buying public considers the value or lack there of for a particular business, industry, fund, etc. Since 1979 the market has done very well for individuals willing to act with discipline and a long term perspective. Absolutely amazing what consistent investment month by month over a working life will produce. Sincerely. bruce.
                And unfortunately can be erased in a matter of hours. Back in 2008 we took a big hit that didn't totally recover until Trump came in. Rather then stay in we got out midway in the administration and put our money in more solid application then paper promises. Right now I am being warmed from reality not paper promises.
                Sam

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                • bruce
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3759

                  #9
                  Re: Unfortunately. True. I remember when silver spiked ala the Hunt brothers. I remember the ups and downs of various commodities touted as safe. I remember the Reagan years ... the go go 80's, the bust of dot coms and housing and the recent chived 19 panic when the market plummeted by thousands ... then proceeded to recover, etc. I was there right in the middle of it. Recovered before Trump entered the White House so was in a good position to do well as the market rose with him. Bought a house during the housing bust. Good deal. Markets of all kinds move. If you are young, invest. Invest wisely but invest. Do not loose your nerve every time someone on Wall Street goes nuts or the Mother Jones crowd burps. Invest broadly in quality stocks. Leave the pennies alone. Look for quality. There may come a time when it is time to run. If so, ... Run. But first give thought to where you will run. As an example, remember when airline stocks nosedived after 9/11? I do. Lots of folks bought those airline stocks. When they began to climb back to normal levels ... lots of folks made nice money selling those stocks.
                  " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                  • blackhawknj
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 3754

                    #10
                    Also don't use your 401K, IRA, Keogh Plan, whatever, as a piggy bank, vacation fund, etc.

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #11
                      My advice to young people is this:

                      1. Get an education.
                      2. Get a job with a 401k -- preferably with employer matching
                      3. Put the max in your 401k -- no whining or sniveling, DO it!
                      4. Open an IRA
                      5. Transfer the money from your 401k to your IRA every month.
                      6. Pick the three top-performing mutual funds (easy to do with the internet)
                      7. Buy the number 1 fund with your transferred money this month, the number 2 fund next month, and so on.
                      8. Re-evaluate every year -- go through step 6 again.
                      9. If one of your funds has fallen out of the top 3, sell it and buy the fund that replaced it.
                      10. Keep doing this for 40 years

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