On Not Unifying the Country

[lyman]

End of the line on this thread. If people need to dig out old insults, do it in PMs. They don't belong in fresh posts.

nope, answer the question

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End of the line on this thread. If people need to dig out old insults, do it in PMs. They don't belong in fresh posts.

BTW,, you continue to snip my posts and things will not go the way you hope,

hiding your past is not possible,, you should know this,

[Roadkingtrax]

Go Bills!

[lyman]

End of the line on this thread. If people need to dig out old insults, do it in PMs. They don't belong in fresh posts.

for clarity,,


the parts you snipped where my comments about the past here,

basically, RED was the ring leader for the group you named (IIRC) the Jug Band
you (yep, togor) was the ring leader for what RED and others call the Stooges,


this is history, not insults, RED and some have 0 issues owning it,

you apparently don't want to,


would be nice if you would actually be the change you seem to want to be,

[JB White]

I have heard the remarks all week long by the Dems saying they are the party of unity. From their mouths, not mine.
All we have to do is think their way,like they do and reach across the aisle. So far 10 Republicans have done it. If we're smart we would follow their lead. Only then will there be unity.

Only then? Who's got ammo for sale? Oh, and the best deal on knee braces.... and orthopedic combat boots.
Think like they do they say...or was it do as they say?

[togor]

Too funny, how many to you want me to get in addition to those in the article??? I'll give you one real quick off the top of my head. Katie Couric also said post election that "Trump voters need to be de programmed." Democrat/leftists/socialists to seem to use the same scripts. It was pre election but I could always run the Don Lemon "credulous rubes" interview too. Lemon's tone has not changed post election either. These are not distortions of the views of the left, they are mainstream on an increasingly radicalized left wing.

What your side is doing is only going to harden the opinions of the millions and millions of people they despise.

Well Art the short answer in my opinion is....if one is good at ignoring the crazy right, if for example January 6 doesn't bother them, then they can learn to ignore the crazy left. Thought that was clear enough before but apparently not. Also: someone has to be the calm adult first, right? Does that job really fall to the libs?

And again, my side is the United States of America

[lyman]

so,

no examples of the left doing the Unity thing?

[togor]

The Democrats in Oregon got their political office attacked by anarchists. Not sure if that counts but hey it's a start, and seriously, only 4 days since the matter was finally settled, thanks to Trump's intransigence.

Whose job is it anyways to extend the olive branch?

[lyman]

what does that have to do with unity?


suddenly having cops arrest people in Oregon and Washington is OK?



that's not unity, that's hypocrisy

[S.A. Boggs]

this question is simple to answer,,



the rest of your last post has nothing to do with this,




UNITY,,, remember,

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you keep using Hitler et al for references,

wouldn't Stalin be a better fit?

About the same one could venture. I find that there are just more parallels with the German version of National Socialism with the American version of National Socialism. Both the German and Russians operated their governments about the same when comparisons are used.
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

About the same one could venture. I find that there are just more parallels with the German version of National Socialism with the American version of National Socialism. Both the German and Russians operated their governments about the same when comparisons are used.
Sam

And I point out again, the National Socialists (Nazis) were socialists. Read "The 25 Points of the Nazi Party" and you'll see that 14 of them are Socialist, wholly or in part.

[rayg]

The Democrats in Oregon got their political office attacked by anarchists.
?

Antifa who sacked the office, are extreme lefties.....

[S.A. Boggs]

And I point out again, the National Socialists (Nazis) were socialists. Read "The 25 Points of the Nazi Party" and you'll see that 14 of them are Socialist, wholly or in part.

Nazi's don't want to admit what they are to other's least the truth is found out. Group think is their prime mover of "logic" for them so as to be able to mindless follower their leader.
Sam

[togor]

Back to the OP, this interview with Mitch McConnell, from 2011, describing his approach to the last Democratic President.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/01/strict-obstructionist/308344/

A key passage:

“We worked very hard to keep our fingerprints off of these proposals,” McConnell says. “Because we thought—correctly, I think—that the only way the American people would know that a great debate was going on was if the measures were not bipartisan. When you hang the ‘bipartisan’ tag on something, the perception is that differences have been worked out, and there’s a broad agreement that that’s the way forward.”

In other words, the best way to accuse the other side of not being cooperative is to choose to not cooperate with them. The public won't understand the nitty-gritty of the reasons, blame both sides, but ultimately, if nothing gets done in the Senate under a Democratic President, that's perfectly fine by McConnell. No new judges, no new laws. Whether one leans left or right, one should be able to see McConnell's approach for what it is, and that it has not changed one whit in 10 years. And also that Biden's track record for crossing the aisle in the Senate is much stronger than McConnell's. By extension therefore it's reasonable to suspect that a right wing base in the country is in no hurry to make peace with the other side, and will look for any reason, even only 4 days in, to justify a position that they hold anyways. Better perhaps would be to just admit: "have no intention of making peace with those guys."

[rayg]

Deflect, deflect!...From the master deflector...change the direction of the post.. Lol

[togor]

Deflect, deflect!...From the master deflector...change the direction of the post.. Lol

I'm explaining that from McConnell on down, there is no desire to unify, to make nice with the other side. Do you agree or disagree?

On the left, largely the same feeling, moreso among the Bernie/AOC crowd than say the Klobuchar/Lamb set.

One thing the sides have in common--Trump. Both see him as a looming unresolved issue, either champion or villain.

One big difference--The GOP would be happy to pass nothing through the Senate for the next two years. The Democrats obviously think differently. The organizing resolution for the US Senate, normally routine and the first vote, needs 60 votes to pass, but is being filibustered by McConnell over symbolic language about the filibuster--language that can be changed by majority vote.

These are simple facts.