Biden’s ‘Buy American’ Clean Energy Conundrum

[rayg]

President's climate actions kill American jobs while boosting China, experts say
President Joe Biden's latest climate-focused executive order promises a bustling clean energy sector backed by "good-paying union jobs." That sector's supply chain, however, is largely dominated by China.

All this is just to cover Biden's favor to his big election donor who owns a big trucking company trucking the oil in now and who would go belly up if the oil was was piped in.. ....

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/bidens-buy-american-clean-energy-conundrum/

[Vern Humphrey]

What do you expect? Biden is selling this country to the Chinese.

[togor]

What do you expect? Biden is selling this country to the Chinese.

Gotta link to substantiate that?

[rayg]

Read my post and read the link..

[S.A. Boggs]

What do you expect? Biden is selling this country to the Chinese.

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Sam

[togor]

Read my post and read the link..

Petroleum is not a long term answer. At least, that's what the Chinese have concluded. So your answer is to just give up on the electromotive sector altogether? Cede it to the Chinese, rendering their temporary advantage permanent? That makes no sense at all to me.

Ray you and I know a thing or two about WW2 armaments. It's no secret that German weapons design and production was well ahead of the Americans in the 1930s. We did not let that stop us for a moment did we? Point made, I hope.

[Vern Humphrey]

For the record, the US developed weaponry and tactics in the '30s that outclassed anything the Germans had:

The Army Artillery developed the fire direction center, revolutionizing the employment of field artillery. When the Germans first encountered it in North Africa, they reported the Americans had "automatic artillery."

The US developed the M2 Browning machinegun, and deployed it exhaustively. For one thing, it gave American fighters a serious edge over foreign fighters which had rifle-caliber machineguns. Even if they supplemented their firepower with a 20mm cannon, they couldn't match US fighters with 6 to 8 Browning .50s

The Army Air Corps espoused the Mitchell-Douhet Theory of Strategic Bombardment, worked out all the tactics, and developed the B17 -- no other nation had anything like it. When coupled with the Browning .50 and the Norden bomb sight, it outclassed everything.

The Army adopted the M1 Garand, head and shoulders the best infantry rifle of WWII. When the Germans encountered it in North Africa, they reported that every American had a machine gun.

In the Marine Corps, Major Earl Ellis wrote "Advanced Base Operations in Micronesia" which was the blue print for the island-hopping campaign of WWII. It was incorporated into the Rainbow War Plans under Case Orange, war with Japan.

The Marines adopted and modified the Higgins boat, originally developed to transport heavy oil field equipment into the swamps of Louisiana. They worked out all the complexities of amphibious landings in the late '30s.

The Marines and Navy worked out the Point Oboe technique of providing precision naval gunfire support to landing forces.

[togor]

Getting off topic,

And also, the cavity magnetron came from the British, making airborne radar practical.

And the proximity fuse.

But the basic point isn't contested, I hope. The Germans were ahead, and we caught up. Moreover the Navy and US shipyards did not acquiesce to The 1st Air Fleet, Kido Butai.

You don't concede because your opponent, your rival, has a head start.

[lyman]

Getting off topic,

And also, the cavity magnetron came from the British, making airborne radar practical.

And the proximity fuse.

But the basic point isn't contested, I hope. The Germans were ahead, and we caught up. Moreover the Navy and US shipyards did not acquiesce to The 1st Air Fleet, Kido Butai.

You don't concede because your opponent, your rival, has a head start.

cause you turned the wheel,


tell us how the Germans were so much more advanced,


examples too,

[rayg]

So your answer is to just give up on the electromotive sector altogether? Cede it to the Chinese, rendering their temporary advantage permanent? That makes no sense at all to me.

There you go again When did I ever say that.. My OP post was about Biden's favor to his big election donor who owns a big trucking company trucking the oil and nothing more...

[togor]

There you go again When did I ever say that.. My OP post was about Biden's favor to his big election donor who owns a big trucking company trucking the oil and nothing more...

The issue as it has been framed is 1,000 times bigger than any trucking company. The petroleum industry wants a high demand for every BTU they produce. That's a rational position for them to take. But equally rational is the position that petroleum doesn't have another century in it as a fuel (for many reasons), and the time to start migrating away from it is now, before the crunch hits. How much US taxpayer money is expended on account of the Persian gulf, a region of strategic relevance for one reason only?

[rayg]

I thought the Keystone XL Pipeline line was a private company venture not pubic tax funded? Am I wrong?...

[togor]

I thought the Keystone XL Pipeline line was a private company venture not pubic tax funded? Am I wrong?...

Keystone is private, but your argument in the OP that Biden is pivoting away from petroleum just to benefit one trucking company is pretty ridiculous, if you stop and really think about it.

Again, the issue is 1,000 times bigger. Independent of any pipeline, General Motors has committed to getting the bottom half of its fleet out of petroleum in 15 years. Tesla, an all-electric vehicle company, has the highest market cap of any car company. That could be a bubble but it does reflect genuine investor sentiment.

[Major Tom]

For now, electric cars (as in ALL electric, no gas motors) are for short hauls unless you like to charge up every 100 miles. My (for traveling) car gets 400 miles per tank, 32 mpg, takes 10 minutes to fill up the tank. I can drive 2000+ miles in about 30 hours depending on speed limits.

[rayg]

[QUOTE=togor;610052]Keystone is private, but your argument in the OP that Biden is pivoting away from petroleum just to benefit one trucking company is pretty ridiculous, if you stop and really think about it./QUOTE]

I don't think you are that naive to think that politics don't rule in this decision and it was done to help his big money political money donner who happens to own a trucking company that would lose money if the pipe line is build.I know you are not stupid!
.. ..And it stinks as now we all have to continue to pay more for oil/gas and cost of goods...

Wyoming Senator Barrasso: Biden’s Energy Policies a ‘Sledgehammer to the Economies of Western States’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...estern-states/