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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #1

    Jezebel

    ....or if a statement by people you don't like isn't racist make it so.

    Some preachers in the Southern Baptist Convention referred to Kamala Harris as a "Jezebel." For the record Jezebel was the Phonecian wife of the evil Hebrew king Ahab. Among her other sins was the promotion of Baal worship in Israel by force including the murder of Hebrew religious officials.

    In the Grio blog some geniuses determined that in the post reconstruction south the term Jezebel meant a black woman of loose character. This is ridiculous on more than one level. First, the reality was worse than that. In the truly racist post reconstruction south all blacks were considered to be incapable of controlling their sexual urges until proven otherwise. This was one of the differences between (choose your racial ephetit) and "colored folks." As I child of the post reconstruction south I can tell you that from personal experience. Second "Jezebel" was a term applied to scheming, immoral white women and I never heard it used in any other way. In fact there was a 1930's movie called "Jezebel" starring Bette Davis in which she played a scheming member of the ante-bellum white aristocracy who's machinations to get the man she wants leads to the death of an innocent person.

    These people make this stuff up as they go along. Any thing critical or derogatory about somebody like Harris has to be racist.....right, and if it isn't well, we'll just fabricate.
    Last edited by Art; 02-08-2021, 07:08.
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11266

    #2
    heard the term used a few times many many years ago,

    sometimes in jest, sometimes not,

    but never heard it used in a way to indicate race,

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #3
      I've seen it used in a derogatory way only.

      However, this is a historical response seen in other groups as well. When a derogatory term is used, it becomes racist, xenophobic, or antisemitic when applied to someone that can frame it as such.
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #4
        "As I child of the post reconstruction south I can tell you that from personal experience. Second "Jezebel" was a term applied to scheming, immoral white women and I never heard it used in any other way.

        That way Art described it is the way I always understood it .

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          Originally posted by lyman
          heard the term used a few times many many years ago,

          sometimes in jest, sometimes not,

          but never heard it used in a way to indicate race,
          Same here -- as I remember when it was used to indicate a woman of loose morals, it was always a White woman.

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