A Very Trumpian Impeachment Defense

[togor]

It has been proven that the assault on the Capital was preplanned. Vids showing antifa people all over the place.
As for AOC, she wasn't even there!
Pelosi demanded a $5000 metal detector installed for ALL Congress people to walk thru. So what does she do? Yep, walked AROUND it!

Exactly!!!

It was on social media, monitored by the Feds, DOJ, WH...so Trump knew what was coming to DC on Jan 6 and times his oratory to precede the count and jack up the crowd to disrupt it.

MT, perhaps accidentally, begins to see the light.

[lyman]

Exactly!!!

It was on social media, monitored by the Feds, DOJ, WH...so Trump knew what was coming to DC on Jan 6 and times his oratory to precede the count and jack up the crowd to disrupt it.

MT, perhaps accidentally, begins to see the light.

so did the Cap Police, Pelosi, and the other members of the house and senate, or at least those with access to the intel,

not just Trump,

[togor]

so did the Cap Police, Pelosi, and the other members of the house and senate, or at least those with access to the intel,

not just Trump,

Yes!

But how many battalions does Congress have?

DoD, under Trump control, chose to have a light security footprint at the Capitol, and responded with less than alacrity to the hour, as if they wanted to give things time to play out one way or the other.

You want a scandal? Signs of the "Hidden hand" at work? Connect those dots.

[rayg]

[QUOTE=togor;610648]Funny....give no details as to wonderful things Trump did in 4 years and demand a detailed account of Biden's 3 weeks to counterbalance it!


Oh please quit trying to defer my question!.. Didn't Biden pass a lot of things!..Why not tell me how great they were!..I'm waiting..and how it going to help the country and not just a few trucking people..

[lyman]

Yes!

But how many battalions does Congress have?

DoD, under Trump control, chose to have a light security footprint at the Capitol, and responded with less than alacrity to the hour, as if they wanted to give things time to play out one way or the other.

You want a scandal? Signs of the "Hidden hand" at work? Connect those dots.

you are looking for a conspiracy in the wrong places,


the D's were just as complicit in this as anyone else,

some may say more so, that would be your hidden hand

under Trump control, do you really think he micro managed the number of troops on any given day?

[togor]

you are looking for a conspiracy in the wrong places,


the D's were just as complicit in this as anyone else,

some may say more so, that would be your hidden hand

under Trump control, do you really think he micro managed the number of troops on any given day?

How were the Ds complicit? They were banging pots as loud as they could. They didn't trust Trump for one minute. They were wrong in this assessment? Saying they had a hand in it might make you feel better but it doesn't make it true.

As for Trump....a tell on this conspiracy theory....did he instigate any changes in the DoD civilian chain of command, after election day, that would have affected decision making on/before January 6? Again, it's right in front of you.

Added: you know who was ready, with the forces at her control? DC Mayor Muriel Bowser. Another data point!

[togor]

Funny....give no details as to wonderful things Trump did in 4 years and demand a detailed account of Biden's 3 weeks to counterbalance it!

Oh please quit trying to defer my question!.. Didn't Biden pass a lot of things!..Why not tell me how great they were!..I'm waiting..and how it going to help the country and not just a few trucking people..

You're asking why a Senator has a different record than a President, which is like asking why an apple isn't an orange. If you have to ask...

But I would say, judging by the speed of some actions, including firings of Trump appointees, Biden comes in knowing a lot more about the operation than Trump did. So 47 years of study if nothing else.

Added: given the mortality of Covid on older folks I would think you're cheering him on and pulling for him to be wildly successful in what he says is his top priority. No?

[Vern Humphrey]

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
-- Thomas Paine

[Roadkingtrax]

"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." ~ M. Thatcher.

[lyman]

How were the Ds complicit? They were banging pots as loud as they could. They didn't trust Trump for one minute. They were wrong in this assessment? Saying they had a hand in it might make you feel better but it doesn't make it true.

As for Trump....a tell on this conspiracy theory....did he instigate any changes in the DoD civilian chain of command, after election day, that would have affected decision making on/before January 6? Again, it's right in front of you.

Added: you know who was ready, with the forces at her control? DC Mayor Muriel Bowser. Another data point!

keep on believing,

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"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." ~ M. Thatcher.

a very wise woman

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You're asking why a Senator has a different record than a President, which is like asking why an apple isn't an orange. If you have to ask...

But I would say, judging by the speed of some actions, including firings of Trump appointees, Biden comes in knowing a lot more about the operation than Trump did. So 47 years of study if nothing else.

Added: given the mortality of Covid on older folks I would think you're cheering him on and pulling for him to be wildly successful in what he says is his top priority. No?

ray,

togor has not realized yet that Biden was not elected because of who he is, or what he could do (his record as a senator and VP are not very strong, ) but because he is not trump


take away the never trumpers, and those with even mild TDS and Biden would not be president,

[rayg]

Well I have to agree.. Trump turned people off by his immature name calling!

[togor]

Never Trumpers are most definitely a thing, and they don't lack for material when citing why Trump was, is, and forever will be, unfit for office.

Ever Trumpers by contrast get defensive, evasive, or fantastical when asked to explain their devotion to the guy. My hunch: even they sense there's a lot of sh*t gone wrong there.

[togor]

keep on believing,

It's less of a stretch than what you apparently believe, so probably I will.

[rayg]

You are still avoiding the question I asked as to what great things has Biden passed since becoming president that will improve/help the country and not just a truck owner. And I am not talking about when Biden was a Senator but since he has been voted as President..

[98src]

2020 Election Fraud

Disagree. Strongly. How did he put it? He asserted fraud, then said in cases of fraud, the rules change, things have to be handled differently. Tell me how protesting outside the capitol is doing it different? But busting in to rattle Congress, or worse, sure the hell is different.

He's stone cold guilty.

Remember in the campaign? Would he commit to a peaceful transfer of power? No, he would not. He left all options on the table, including the one he used.

Guilty as sin, for neither the first or last time.

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He is bad.

Not a good reflection on anyone who doesn't see why.

Surely you're not saying that there wasn't any election fraud???? And that he didn't have a right to complain about it. Presidents still have the same 1st Amendment rights as anyone else.