Mini Holocaust

[Johnny P]

Socialist democrat Andrew Cuomo created his own mini holocaust, and then tried to cover it up. Like any good socialist democrat blamed Trump for everything, but the truth is now coming out. Lying to the public while sending those that were helpless to their death.

[Vern Humphrey]

It's hard to categorize what he did as anything less than negligent homicide.

[togor]

It's hard to categorize what he did as anything less than negligent homicide.

Not taking issue with this statement, but wondering how anyone would put Kristi Noem (Governor of South Dakota) in a different moral category than Cuomo. Lest anyone want to argue that poor decisions leading to excess deaths is unique to one party only.

[lyman]

Not taking issue with this statement, but wondering how anyone would put Kristi Noem (Governor of South Dakota) in a different moral category than Cuomo. Lest anyone want to argue that poor decisions leading to excess deaths is unique to one party only.

did Noem hide the truth about the deaths in her state?

did she come out and tell the world she would not accept any vaccine that Trump had anything to do with in her state like Cuomo did?


otherwise, you comments are meaningless in this conversation,

[mbgarand]

Not taking issue with this statement, but wondering how anyone would put Kristi Noem (Governor of South Dakota) in a different moral category than Cuomo. Lest anyone want to argue that poor decisions leading to excess deaths is unique to one party only.

I can tell you that our South Dakota Governor has more balls than you and the weasels in Washington. Thank you for just keeping your nasty comments to yourself

[Vern Humphrey]

I can tell you that our South Dakota Governor has more balls than you and the weasels in Washington. Thank you for just keeping your nasty comments to yourself

The lad is insecure and has to keep babbling to attract attention.

[Fred Pillot]

Think about how much pension money New York is saving.

[togor]

did Noem hide the truth about the deaths in her state?

did she come out and tell the world she would not accept any vaccine that Trump had anything to do with in her state like Cuomo did?


otherwise, you comments are meaningless in this conversation,

Cuomo is a loudmouthed New Yorker, a type of which we have had enough. He made bad decisions with Covid-19, and nobody is going to deny that they should come back to haunt him.

What about Noem's bad decisions? Should those be wrapped in a blanket of denial?

[togor]

I can tell you that our South Dakota Governor has more balls than you and the weasels in Washington. Thank you for just keeping your nasty comments to yourself

Sturgis, and the spike.

Covid deaths, latest numbers, NY, a highly urbanized state, has 234 deaths per 100K of the population. South Dakota, perhaps the most socially distanced state in the lower 48, has 208. Basically twice that of Minnesota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana.

If Noem had balls, might she have swung them to get her state to take the virus seriously before the SHTF last fall?

[lyman]

Cuomo is a loudmouthed New Yorker, a type of which we have had enough. He made bad decisions with Covid-19, and nobody is going to deny that they should come back to haunt him.

What about Noem's bad decisions? Should those be wrapped in a blanket of denial?

you are missing the point,


Noem made a decision,, and stuck with it,


Cuomo lied, and politicized everything, (yup, loud mouth new yawker)


different coins,,, unless you can find evidence she lied

[togor]

you are missing the point,


Noem made a decision,, and stuck with it,


Cuomo lied, and politicized everything, (yup, loud mouth new yawker)


different coins,,, unless you can find evidence she lied

That is certainly one way of looking at it,

but also small consolation to SD residents who lost someone to what they thought was a hoax, because there was no one they trusted in government to tell them different. If someone cultivates a reputation as someone the people can trust, then don't they have a special obligation to tell the people what they need to hear, however uncomfortable, when the time comes? Isn't that the essence of leadership?

The math is not difficult, if someone wants to do it:

How many more South Dakotans would still be alive if SD had Nebraska's per capita mortality?

Noem as a state governor was certainly in a position to get proper information regarding the dangers posed by the disease. And as I said, her state, unlike the urban states of the coasts, has natural advantages when it comes to containing the virus. Plus she knew from the meat plant outbreaks in the spring what the virus was capable of doing. So Sturgis....the fall spike, didn't have to be as bad. It was a choice, in some ways worse for being an informed one--she had to know that elevated mortality was going to be part of it, that her state's rural health care could be easily overwhelmed (which drove the mortality).

So sure, give her points for sticking by her decision, but then penalize her for making a bad decision in the first place.

[Johnny P]

Not taking issue with this statement, but wondering how anyone would put Kristi Noem (Governor of South Dakota) in a different moral category than Cuomo. Lest anyone want to argue that poor decisions leading to excess deaths is unique to one party only.

What does Kristi Noem have to do with what Cuomo did? He sent sick patients to infect the most vulnerable, and then lied about what he had done. Trump sent the hospital ship to New York, and Cuomo wouldn't use it.

[lyman]

What does Kristi Noem have to do with what Cuomo did? He sent sick patients to infect the most vulnerable, and then lied about what he had done. Trump sent the hospital ship to New York, and Cuomo wouldn't use it.

Noem has nothing to do with the conversation,

togor just can't have a conversation about a D that did wrong (Cuomo) with out finding fault in a R too, even if that fault is something as simple as jaywalking,

[togor]

Noem has nothing to do with the conversation,

togor just can't have a conversation about a D that did wrong (Cuomo) with out finding fault in a R too, even if that fault is something as simple as jaywalking,

Cuomo was jaywalking? Seems a bit more serious than that!

But is the alternative better? Only sighting Democrats for their failings, and pretending those same failings aren't rampant in the other party?

Which is closer to the truth? A balanced view, or an unbalanced one? We know which is more satisfying!!!

Fox versus Hedgehog (see if Vernon gets the reference).

[rayg]

Noem has nothing to do with the conversation,

togor just can't have a conversation about a D that did wrong (Cuomo) with out finding fault in a R too, even if that fault is something as simple as jaywalking,

Ray says..He always does that! Lol