0.0004 Percent Chance of Being Shot by Police

[rayg]

CPAC Myth Buster: 0.0004 Percent Chance of Being Shot by Police

Togor ...as you always seem to enjoy posting incidents when the police shoot someone! Here's the stats on police shootings...

Police use deadly force under 1,000 times out of 30 million violent felony criminal contacts per year. That’s a 0.0004 percent chance of being shot by the police. In America, “you are more likely to be struck by lightning than to be shot by police.”

The NYPD in 2019, with 35,000 officers only fired their weapons in the line of duty 34 times. The Chicago Police Department, with 13,000 officers, only fired their weapons in the line of duty 34 times, and the Baltimore Police Department only fired their weapons in the line of duty four times.

Former New York Police Department (NYPD) Detective Rob O’Donnell was interviewed on a panel moderated by Matt Boyle, Washington Political Editor for Breitbart News Network, about police data and anti-police rhetor

https://www.breitbart.com/social-jus...hot-by-police/

[togor]

Out of curiosity, what are the reciprocal odds? Of an LEO being shot by a member of the public in that same set of encounters?

Given that police shoot more people than the number of LEOs who are themselves shot, it stands to reason then that police have even lower odds, right?

Great news for police everywhere. Thanks Ray.

[rayg]

Some interesting facts..

Tucker Carlson gave the statistics on the ten 'unarmed' African Americans who got shot by the police in 2019. Four were actively assaulting a police officer, another three were attempting to run over an officer with their vehicle and one was holding a hostage and was threating to shoot the hostage and police. Only two cases were truly unarmed and the officer involved was prosecuted. Meanwhile, approximately 7,000 African Americans were murdered by other African Americans during this year.

And don't forgot all the officers that were injured over the BLM and other marches, riots, burning and demonstrations the past year...As there were hundreds of officers injured by people involved in these incidences!...

[togor]

Interesting tidbits from Tucker, but let's circle back to your original statistics....

If shootings are in fact so rare as outcomes from police encounters, then is it really necessary to make it so hard to prove excessive force by police? From your numbers, all it seems that such policies do is protect the bad apples, right? And it's the bad apples that give the entire barrel a bad reputation. Following on the logic of that CPAC presentation, Minneapolis is therefore on the right track, even if police up there don't like the idea of funds going elsewhere (funding cuts anywhere are seldom popular with those affected).

It's maybe not what the guy intended to argue but it is a legitimate conclusion from his statistics. Thanks Ray.

[rayg]

Last I read,, was Minn was rediverting a lot of funds back to the police budget to hire more officers in an effort to cut back on the runaway crime wave there.. It's simple ..less police, more crime in most cases..

Togor you might want to review these stats...Total officer on duty contributed deaths 2021

https://www.odmp.org/search/year

[dryheat]

-Meanwhile, approximately 7,000 African Americans were murdered by other African Americans during this year.-

[togor]

Last I read,, was Minn was rediverting a lot of funds back to the police budget to hire more officers in an effort to cut back on the runaway crime wave there.. It's simple ..less police, more crime in most cases..

Togor you might want to review these stats...Total officer on duty contributed deaths 2021

https://www.odmp.org/search/year

Here's the link for 2020, a complete year.

https://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2020

If you don't mind a bit of thread drift, look at the fatalities in Texas as compared to NY or Cali, two other big states. They really stick out!

Details would matter, but NY and CA are commie states that appear less dangerous to LEOs than the Republic of Texas. I wonder why that is.

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-Meanwhile, approximately 7,000 African Americans were murdered by other African Americans during this year.-

Who would have guessed that being packed into urban neighborhoods with a lot of poor people with easy access to drugs and guns would be dangerous?

[rayg]

And whose fault is that?

[togor]

And whose fault is that?

Texans.

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I assume you're talking about police fatalities being disproportionately high in Texas. Maybe desperados too.

[rayg]

I wonder why?

[sid]

There were more riots in Portland yesterday. 2.3 million in property damage and the peaceful rioters tried to break into a police station.

[rayg]

Texas Stats

According to the 2018 US Census Bureau estimates, the population of Texas was 73.5% White which breaks down to..

(41.4% Non-Hispanic White and 32.1% Hispanic White),
12.3% Black or African American, 5.0% Asian, 0.5% Native American and Alaskan Native, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 6.0% Some Other Race, and 2.7% from two or more races

During the last go-around, which is still being litigated in federal court, Hispanics accounted for about 65% of the state’s growth. With about two years of growth left to go, their share of Texas’ population increase since 2010 reached 54% last July.

There are 1.6 million undocumented immigrants comprised 33 percent of the immigrant population and 6 percent of the total state population in 2016.

[togor]

I wonder why?

Maybe a Texan can explain why law enforcement there is more dangerous. I wouldn't know, don't know enough about the place.

[Roadkingtrax]

There were more riots in Portland yesterday. 2.3 million in property damage and the peaceful rioters tried to break into a police station.

Wow they estimate fast. LOL

[lyman]

Maybe a Texan can explain why law enforcement there is more dangerous. I wouldn't know, don't know enough about the place.

Ray!!!!!


you finally did it!!!!!!!


you found something that togor is not an expert in!!!!!!


congrats!!!!