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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    It is all about race in schools

    NYU Professor: ‘If You’re Black, You’re Not Safe In U.S. Schools’

    A professor at New York University said that black students are not safe in American schools.
    In a separate tweet, Kirkland said that being black in school — regardless of vaccination efforts or the coronavirus — is unsafe.

    “It’s not about vaccines or COVID. If you’re Black, you’re not safe in U.S. schools,” Kirkland said.



    And another article about race in schools

    LA Teachers’ Union Pushing Racial Division in Fight Over School Closures
    Union wants to know race of parents pushing for reopening

    The largest teachers' union in Los Angeles is working to prove that the battle lines in the fight to reopen schools are defined by race, going as far as contacting parents who speak out in support of opening schools to ascertain their race.

    The largest teachers' union in Los Angeles is working to prove that the battle lines in the fight to reopen schools are defined by race, going as far as contacting parents who speak out in support of opening schools to ascertain their race. Miryam Qudrat, a Los Angeles parent of a middle schooler, says a […]
  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #2
    If a democrat cannot find a legitimate answer to any problem; their fall back excuse uses racism as the sole cause of all our troubles.
    When 'Ol Big ears was president, he pushed racism to the max causing more riots during his term than ever before.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      The NYU Professor has a point, that some schools that are heavily black are more dangerous. But he needs to think long and hard about how and why that is, instead of just going for a splash quote.

      It's a complicated subject. In Milwaukee for example, the conservative view is...make it easier for black kids who want to escape that get into a private school. Good for that kid but it still leaves the problem behind to be solved.

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        When my daughter was working on her Doctorate, she had to work in New York schools. Someone would meet her at the door, escort her to her workroom and lock her in. It is illegal to lock doors in schools because of fire safety -- but there were worse dangers in New York schools.

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        • rayg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 7444

          #5
          Originally posted by togor
          The NYU Professor has a point, that some schools that are heavily black are more dangerous. But he needs to think long and hard about how and why that is, instead of just going for a splash quote.
          Ok so maybe you can you tell us why!

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11268

            #6
            Originally posted by togor
            The NYU Professor has a point, that some schools that are heavily black are more dangerous. But he needs to think long and hard about how and why that is, instead of just going for a splash quote.

            It's a complicated subject. In Milwaukee for example, the conservative view is...make it easier for black kids who want to escape that get into a private school. Good for that kid but it still leaves the problem behind to be solved.
            and what is the democrat or liberal view?

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Originally posted by lyman
              and what is the democrat or liberal view?
              Had to find someone to ask...

              It comes down to strengthening the schools where the poor kids are. No doubt more money for programs, but more minority teachers too, so kids can relate. Poor kids, any color, have trouble even functioning in school much less learning anything.

              It may be liberal pie-in-the-sky to think much can be done to improve some of these really bad areas, as far as schools go, but for sure diverting taxpayers funds to send a fraction of those kids to private or charter schools is not tackling the problem either.

              I think schools are asked to do too much as it is, that they've turned into social service agencies, similar to police, because they're one of the few public institutions still operating. I know teachers whose heart breaks a little when a kid dreads summer break, because that kid won't eat as well with no school meals.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11268

                #8
                in this area the liberal view is simple,

                it's every one's fault but the school, and teachers,

                so they continue to blame, in no particular order

                Schools, the buildings themselves,
                Schools, the lack of supplies,
                Nutrition, at home (this one is likely true)
                Nutrition, as in the lack of food choices in the neighborhoods, (this one is self inflicted, and not exactly true)
                lack of proper Wifi for the kids at home
                lack of supplies for the kids at home
                lack of funding to hire more or give raises
                sometimes the Violence in the class room and race come up,

                and then they blame the parent and family (lack of responsibility and proper involvement in the kid's and the kid's education) as a last resort to get the conservatives to listen


                fact of the matter is the changes needed to make a difference need to start at the home and neighborhood level,
                as in culture,

                but that will rarely be brought up unless it is used as a focal point for some discrimination

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  It sucks to be poor. For whatever other problems you might have in life, you got people lining up to dump on you. To be a poor kid, even worse. That's just reality.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11268

                    #10
                    no so much dump on you,

                    sad part is you have people that are using you (the poor person) for push agenda's that don't help you

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                    • rayg
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 7444

                      #11
                      There have always been poor people...but instead of just laying around collecting well fare there are those who are able to physically work that get up, look for a job. And if they find a job, even if they don't like it, they go to it every day...The first 25 years of my life I worked at a jobs I hated but I went anyway. Why should other people expect anything different no matter were they live.....

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        no so much dump on you,

                        sad part is you have people that are using you (the poor person) for push agenda's that don't help you
                        There's dumping from those who stigmatize poverty as a MORAL failing, but also what you said, agendas that don't help. The poor are more easily separated from what money they do have, which is part of what keeps them poor. But collectively they spend a lot, which is to say there's a lot of money to be made in poverty.

                        Years ago Wisconsin sold the lottery as a way of having some fun while using the excess proceeds to reduce property taxes. Well who buys scratch-offs, on average? And who has a property tax bill, on average?

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11268

                          #13
                          Va sold the Lottery as a way to raise money for schools,

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                          • blackhawknj
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 3754

                            #14
                            NJ introduced the Lottery in 1969 to hold down property taxes and help senior citizens-hah!
                            Yes, it's rough to be a poor 12 year old kid when you're always hungry because your 27 year old mother spends your food money-yours and your half-siblings on drink and drugs, the only adult male in your life is her current boyfriend....
                            Last edited by blackhawknj; 03-08-2021, 09:29.

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lyman
                              Va sold the Lottery as a way to raise money for schools,
                              And then they reduced the school appropriation by the amount raised by the lottery.

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