Omaha police officer shot four times by a shoplifter

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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #16
    Actually, due to the fear of catastrophic consequences for a screw up, or even a good shooting that looks bad on some camera, the police overall (there are exceptions) have become less hair trigger than when I was doing the do. In the "old days" when the cops were allowed to "back shoot" fleeing felons and there were no FFLs or background checks and any tractor store could sell guns and ammunition, the criminal in the OP might well have been shot dead for refusing to show his hands. Especially if he came from or was in the "wrong" part of town. Of course there were variations by jurisdiction.
    Last edited by Art; 03-15-2021, 06:35.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11296

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      The point is,

      The easier it is for criminals to have guns (notice I said the "c" word, criminals),

      the more hair trigger the police will be,

      and the greater the likelihood of fatal police mistakes upon the population at large.

      When I was a kid, learning this stuff, "gun rights" weren't for criminals like they are today.

      Times change, I guess.
      so how much easier is it for Criminals to get guns now vs 20 or 30 or 70 yrs ago?


      and Art is correct,

      had that same conversation with a younger Officer last summer, (re the body cam or cell phone photo\Video)

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      • Tuna
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2686

        #18
        Sorry Lyman but I can remember that one could buy a handgun through the mail and buy rifles and shotguns too as well as ammunition.

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #19
          Originally posted by Tuna
          Sorry Lyman but I can remember that one could buy a handgun through the mail and buy rifles and shotguns too as well as ammunition.
          Absolutely -- and the homicide rate was much lower than today.

          The homicide rate is significantly up in American cities. Here are some explanations for why.

          A new report, by the Council on Criminal Justice, found homicides have increased sharply this year across 21 US cities with relevant data: “Homicide rates increased by 42% during the summer and 34% in the fall over the summer and fall of 2019.” Other data, from crime analyst Jeff Asher, found murder is up 36 percent throughout the year so far, compared to the same period in 2019, in a sample of 51 US cities. A preliminary FBI report also found murders up 15 percent nationwide in the first half of 2020.
          Now I dare anyone to tell me this spike in homicides is due to a sudden reduction in gun control!

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11296

            #20
            Originally posted by Tuna
            Sorry Lyman but I can remember that one could buy a handgun through the mail and buy rifles and shotguns too as well as ammunition.
            OK Boomer,,, (relax, I'm considered a boomer by age as well)

            question is,, pre 1968, did criminals make lots of mail order purchases?

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #21
              Originally posted by lyman
              OK Boomer,,, (relax, I'm considered a boomer by age as well)

              question is,, pre 1968, did criminals make lots of mail order purchases?
              No, the question is, has "gun control" decreased the level of homicides?

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11296

                #22
                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                No, the question is, has "gun control" decreased the level of homicides?
                that answer is no

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