Just a few more mass shootings is what the democrats need ...

[dogtag]

then the sheep among us will start demanding gun control.
The DOJ and FBI have always known about these shooters,
knew they were a threat, knew it was only a matter of time
before the threats would become acted upon.
But that's the idea, Feed discontentment with the endless
lockdowns causing loss of jobs, indebtedness and food shortages.
In the meantime, pit groups against each other and make
Whites the target of hatred. Cancel anyone who so much as dares
to argue, complain or protest which a gullible and willing media will
happily assist with.

[Sandpebble]

The United States has the highest per capita gun ownership and highest rate of mass / public shooting of any country on the planet .

When friends and family of ours in Colombia South America call ... and they do often ... to inquire of our safety here in the United States it's obvious that as a nation , we're doing something wrong.

turns out it is us that's the turd world

[pmclaine]

The United States has the highest per capita gun ownership and highest rate of mass / public shooting of any country on the planet .

When friends and family of ours in Colombia South America call ... and they do often ... to inquire of our safety here in the United States it's obvious that as a nation , we're doing something wrong.

turns out it is us that's the turd world

So than give away your guns.

South America doesnt have a gun problem?

Thing is they also have a dictator problem.

Lose the 2A we will be them.

[Sandpebble]

So than give away your guns.

South America doesnt have a gun problem?

Thing is they also have a dictator problem.

Lose the 2A we will be them.

PM ... let me print it again for you ...

"The United States has the highest per capita gun ownership and highest rate of mass / public shooting of any country on the planet ."

Are you saying this is an acceptable norm ?.... we're not doing something wrong ?

When I feel the need to keep a revolver by the bed and loaded shotgun nearby ... and I do ... I don't feel free. I do this from fear and being afraid doesn't make me feel free.

I do truly miss the days at the range when it was target practice , and Dad and Son sighting in the deer rifle , competitors practicing their skills.

Now everything has to be "Tactical" .... even .22 ammo..... we're doing something wrong



Last I knew Colombia's President was elected and their mass shootings are nothing like ours .

[lyman]

PM ... let me print it again for you ...

"The United States has the highest per capita gun ownership and highest rate of mass / public shooting of any country on the planet ."

Are you saying this is an acceptable norm ?.... we're not doing something wrong ?

When I feel the need to keep a revolver by the bed and loaded shotgun nearby ... and I do ... I don't feel free. I do this from fear and being afraid doesn't make me feel free.

I do truly miss the days at the range when it was target practice , and Dad and Son sighting in the deer rifle , competitors practicing their skills.

Now everything has to be "Tactical" .... even .22 ammo..... we're doing something wrong



Last I knew Colombia's President was elected and their mass shootings are nothing like ours .

then why are you still here in the US?

seriously,

if you live in that much fear, and you feel Columbia is safer,, makes since to pack up and go,,,,,


meanwhile, I have firearms in the house, at wear one when I am at at shop,

I carry one, or rather have one, in whatever vehicle I am driving , more of a force of habit thing than a need, (tho,, better to have and not need vs need and not have)


I spent way too many years commuting to the hood, and working in the hood, unarmed (unless in my vehicle) and never felt threatened, was never threatened, and never robbed


also,

how about posting up links to those numbers, and if possible, a breakdown of the mass shootings

how many is a 'mass' for example?

[Vern Humphrey]

In the 21st century so far, there have been 42 mass shootings in the USA.
In Canada there have been 6

The current population of the US is 332,524,270
The current population of Canada is 38,067,903

In other words, the population of the US is about 8 1/2 times that of Canada. If we multiply the 6 shootings in Canada by 8 1/2 we get 51. So the rate of mass shootings in the US is only about 82% of the rate in Canada, on a per capita basis

[Sandpebble]

then why are you still here in the US?

seriously,

if you live in that much fear, and you feel Columbia is safer,, makes since to pack up and go,,,,,


meanwhile, I have firearms in the house, at wear one when I am at at shop,

I carry one, or rather have one, in whatever vehicle I am driving , more of a force of habit thing than a need, (tho,, better to have and not need vs need and not have)


I spent way too many years commuting to the hood, and working in the hood, unarmed (unless in my vehicle) and never felt threatened, was never threatened, and never robbed


also,

how about posting up links to those numbers, and if possible, a breakdown of the mass shootings

how many is a 'mass' for example?

Again you miss ... or deliberately ignore the point Lyman . Sure... ask me why I don't live some where else in order steer us all away from the point.... but

... dont bother asking me to show you the proof as its there... my whole point is THE FACT that no other nation on the planet suffers as many gun deaths as here in the good old USA, and that means we... WE... are doing something wrong, whether I feel afraid or not . Google it yourself and ignore poor Verns feeble attempts at comparing us to Canada

[dogtag]

Using logic on democrats will get you exactly nowhere. But, nice try.

[lyman]

Again you miss ... or deliberately ignore the point Lyman . Sure... ask me why I don't live some where else in order steer us all away from the point.... but

... dont bother asking me to show you the proof as its there... my whole point is THE FACT that no other nation on the planet suffers as many gun deaths as here in the good old USA, and that means we... WE... are doing something wrong, whether I feel afraid or not . Google it yourself and ignore poor Verns feeble attempts at comparing us to Canada

actually, you are doing what you do a lot,

post something,
then when questioned, ignore the question,


my question about living here was serious,

as was my comments about We as a nation,

I know we have more guns per capita ,, but where are you getting the other numbers?

[pmclaine]

PM ... let me print it again for you ...

"The United States has the highest per capita gun ownership and highest rate of mass / public shooting of any country on the planet ."

Are you saying this is an acceptable norm ?.... we're not doing something wrong ?

When I feel the need to keep a revolver by the bed and loaded shotgun nearby ... and I do ... I don't feel free. I do this from fear and being afraid doesn't make me feel free.

I do truly miss the days at the range when it was target practice , and Dad and Son sighting in the deer rifle , competitors practicing their skills.

Now everything has to be "Tactical" .... even .22 ammo..... we're doing something wrong



Last I knew Colombia's President was elected and their mass shootings are nothing like ours .

As long as you stay out of the Democratic controlled areas like Chicago, New York, LA, etc. you will be fine. Subtract those areas from your stat and see how those numbers pan out even with us being the highest per capita for gun ownership.

The powers that run that area refuse to do anything about the gang crime running up those numbers because they gain their power from fear.

Your firearms have not hurt anyone, neither have mine. We should be left alone.

Its too bad your understanding of the Second Amendment is deer hunting and target shooting...the Founding Fathers disagree with you.....as does the Supreme Court in the Miller case.

[Sandpebble]

actually, you are doing what you do a lot,

post something,
then when questioned, ignore the question,


my question about living here was serious,

as was my comments about We as a nation,

I know we have more guns per capita ,, but where are you getting the other numbers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

There's a start for where I get the numbers Lyman ... need another dozen or so ?

As far as living here.... simple question to a simple guy ...

Do you not think it ... wrong ... that civilized men in the most civilized and advanced nation on earth feel it's necessary to go armed to the grocery store ?

And not think that's a shame ? I'm guessing you'll never understand why a true US citizen would rather see it different

oh... P.S. ... suppose we now should arm all store cashiers now just like school teachers in order to solve the problem

[pmclaine]

Sandpebble in one way is right "We" do have a problem.

We have a culture problem.

We have allowed govt to become the sole arbiter of morality and it is so corrupt it is destroying society.

Churches are gone, fraternal orders are gone, Social functions are gone, local meet ups or organizations have been replaced by garbage that is more likely to erode morality rather than enforce it.

Add to that the lack of mental health care.

We dont have a gun problem...we have a culture problem.

and the disturbing thing is that I think it was by design.

[rayg]

2019/20, the urban rate of violence against the person was 23.1 per 1,000 population in
predominantly rural areas compared with 30.4 per 1,000 population in predominantly
urban areas. The high rates are in the Democratic controlled urban areas and the urban areas are only a small fraction of the whole country! why? Lol

https://assets.publishing.service.go...ugust_2020.pdf

[lyman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

There's a start for where I get the numbers Lyman ... need another dozen or so ?

As far as living here.... simple question to a simple guy ...

Do you not think it ... wrong ... that civilized men in the most civilized and advanced nation on earth feel it's necessary to go armed to the grocery store ?

And not think that's a shame ? I'm guessing you'll never understand why a true US citizen would rather see it different

oh... P.S. ... suppose we now should arm all store cashiers now just like school teachers in order to solve the problem

the job I mentioned above,,, was managing a grocery store in the hood,

never felt threatened and was never hassled,
even when catching and prosecuting white/black and Asians,,,

not sure what you are referring to as a true US citizen,

born and raised here, can't get much more true than that


BTW,, did you actually read what you posted and what the chart at that link shows?


homicides,

US ranked #17 4.46

Columbia, ranked #8 18.20


so where is the turd world?


now the FBI data for 2017 is slightly higher, but includes non negligent manslaughter,


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-16

[Sandpebble]

OK Lyman ... you make a good statistical point... however the United States still leads the world in mass shootings ( as in more than 3 at one time }

Your comparison to Colombia having a higher homicide rate leaves out one interesting fact ... deaths of innocents . We need not even touch the fact that nowhere else on earth have more children died at school