NYC becomes the first city in nation to end qualified immunity for police

[rayg]

A good percent of what the job entails of an officer now could expose him to be sued.. How many other jobs in the country in what a police officer does, will be is as exposed to a law suite? So the end result will be officers will not get involved with anything to keep themselves safe from litigation and crime will rise very quickly.

New York City becomes the first city in the nation to end qualified immunity for police officers after slashing NYPD budget by $1 billion amid prosed sweeping reforms

"The New York City Council voted on Thursday to end qualified immunity for police officers which will open the door for them to face civil lawsuits

The legislation has yet to be signed by NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio - who is expected to sign it
Last summer, the city moved to divert $1 billion from the NYPD budget

The legislation creates a new local civil right protecting New Yorkers against 'unreasonable search and seizures' and 'excessive force'

New York City Council Speaker Corey Johnson hailed the legislation and said qualified immunity was 'rooted in our nation's history of systemic racism'

The New York City bill also comes with several other bills and provisions taking authorities away from the NYPD and moving them to other agencies

In one proposal, the power of issuing and revoking press passes will move from the NYPD to the Mayor's Office of Media and Entertainment

Another bill will create a crash investigation and an analysis unit within the Department of Transportation

In a related bill, the NYPD will now be required to issue a quarterly report on all traffic and vehicle stops

In yet another bill, the Civilian Complaint Review Board, which investigates police misconduct, will be given the final authority to discipline cops "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

[Vern Humphrey]

In ten years, NYC will have no police force. The Irish Whales will walk.

[togor]

Teachers have been living with the reality for years that one bad encounter with a kid or parent, and they're looking for a new line of work. I haven't heard of broad protests about the foolishness of that.

And I notice Ray blows hot and cold, mostly cold, on the subject of police reforms. Any call anywhere to try something different is perceived as anti-police. Well do the police work for the public or is it the other way around?

[rayg]

Please explain a little on were I blew hot and were I blew cold on police reforms?...

Yes teachers face a little problem in some isolated cases but they don't generally lay hands on people or have to shoot them which could set the cause for a possibly law suit...

[togor]

Please explain a little on were I blew hot and were I blew cold on police reforms?...

Can you name a single police reform, with some actual meat on it, that you would support?

I know that redirecting funds to mental health response agencies is one you don't like.

[rayg]

Why don't you provide me with some reforms you think the police need that I might be able to comment on!

[togor]

Ending qualified immunity is apparently something they're going to try in NYC.

And then there's this

[lyman]

Please explain a little on were I blew hot and were I blew cold on police reforms?...

Yes teachers face a little problem in some isolated cases but they don't generally lay hands on people or have to shoot them which could set the cause for a possibly law suit...

one could argue that teacher's unions have been part of the problem,

[togor]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/26/o...gtype=Homepage

Half the cops on Long Island make over $200K a year, and the police have their own super-PAC to get the politicians they want.

[lyman]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/26/o...gtype=Homepage

Half the cops on Long Island make over $200K a year, and the police have their own super-PAC to get the politicians they want.

while I agree that wage may seem a bit high, the cost of living needs to be looked at as well

key words from that article (btw, for those that get the paywall, right click, open incognito)

Mr. Trotta’s small, quixotic battle is part of a much larger struggle in the United States to wrestle power away from police unions that for too long have resisted meaningful reform.

which goes to show that unions hurt more than they help

[rayg]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/26/o...gtype=Homepage

Half the cops on Long Island make over $200K a year, and the police have their own super-PAC to get the politicians they want.

So leave it to Togor who is anti police, I always wonder why! he has to look up and try to find a department he can post about to promote his anti police stance.. However that department he posted is not the norm. And also you don't know if those salaries include overtime hours as some agencies feel it is cheaper to pay the OT then the cost of additional officers. Now why don't we compare a lot of the other unions in the country like the labor, electrical, teamsters etc. unions to name a few where employees make a lot of money and also were their jobs do not not routinely entail the deadly numbers of the dangers of police work as opposed to that of an officer..ie being killed and injured on duty!

[togor]

Ray like I said at the beginning....any call for reform, you label as anti-police.

Thanks for proving me right, again!

Police unions with a super-PAC to contribute to candidates, who, once elected, will be strongly supportive of the unions. No wonder taxes up there are so high! Seriously? No reform opportunity there that Ray can see?

[dryheat]

Long Island, isn't that in N.Y.? Not exactly your normal township. Like Illinois.

[rayg]

[QUOTE=togor;613596]Ray like I said at the beginning....any call for reform, you label as anti-police.

Thanks for proving me right again!

Togor explain to me how I proved you right and especially again you say?..