What is wrong with this common sense Georgia law?

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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    What is wrong with this common sense Georgia law?

    What is wrong with this common sense law?
    Also I think the president should keep his nose out of state business

    Georgia enacted sweeping election reform last week that required voter ID for absentee voting rather than relying on signature matching for verification, limited ballot drop boxes to one per county or one per 100,000 voters, expanded early voting days, and standardized early voting hours to a minimum of 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and a maximum of 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. The legislation barred outside groups from passing out food and water to those in line within 150 feet.

    Biden tells Georgia to ?smarten up? to avoid losing business over new election law
    Major League Baseball announced it would pull its All-Star Game out of Atlanta

    Biden tells Georgia to ?smarten up? to avoid losing business over new election law
    Major League Baseball announced it would pull its All-Star Game out of Atlanta

  • Mark in Ottawa
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1744

    #2
    The ID requirement appears reasonable but having one ballot box per county appears to be and probably is intended to limit the ability of poor voters (say those without automobiles) to vote. I do note from the map that most counties in Georgia are pretty small but if you don't have a car, that ballot box might as well be on the moon.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      The law is designed to create just enough extra friction to cause a net swing of votes that favors Republicans. Naturally to the Republican base voter, any changes that cause their side to win are welcomed, and a rationalization for them is easily found.

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      • barretcreek
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 6065

        #4
        My county is larger than three or four of the smaller states and we only have a handful of ballot drop boxes. No one's clutching their pearls over it. Still, voting should not be difficult but I think it should be deliberate. Not another version of 'online shopping'. In person, by yourself in privacy unless you have a real good excuse. I voted absentee many times because I was working over in some A-hole of creation.

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        • rayg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 7444

          #5
          Originally posted by togor
          The law is designed to create just enough extra friction to cause a net swing of votes that favors Republicans. Naturally to the Republican base voter, any changes that cause their side to win are welcomed, and a rationalization for them is easily found.
          How does requiring an ID to vote cause friction it is just common sense. You need to prove you are a citizen to vote. How does that cause friction?...

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          • JB White
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 13371

            #6
            Ray, the question is rhetorical. The words common sense is enough to get people up in arms. We all know by now that when the left side uses the term common sense, its only there to hide an ulterior motive. So, when someone else's uses it they automatically look for dirt. They can't help it. Its the way they were raised. Awake in the morning. Put on blinders. Practice screaming 'foul' for five minutes.....
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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Ray the law wasn't written by Georgia Republicans to make it easier for Georgia Democrats to win the coming statewide contests. Quite the opposite in fact.

              Note they were criticized by one former politician for not going nearly far enough.

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              • rayg
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7444

                #8
                I guess I don't understand why is it detrimental only to Democrats? Please explain...
                Last edited by rayg; 04-07-2021, 04:28.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11268

                  #9
                  so how different is it from the 2010 revisions?

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rayg
                    I guess I don't understand why is it detrimental only to Democrats? Please explain...
                    What they do is look at question like....who voted absentee? How many of them drive, have photo ID? Move around a lot, one rental to the next? Add rules designed to hit those areas (think: Atlanta voters).

                    You just gotta win the state by 1 vote.

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                    • kj47
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 699

                      #11
                      Harder to double or triple count with ID, simple as that. Not saying it can't be done...

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                      • rayg
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 7444

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        What they do is look at question like....who voted absentee? How many of them drive, have photo ID? Move around a lot, one rental to the next? Add rules designed to hit those areas (think: Atlanta voters).

                        You just gotta win the state by 1 vote.
                        And poor people who are Republicans don't have the same problems...

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                        • dryheat
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10587

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rayg
                          I guess I don't understand why is it detrimental only to Democrats? Please explain...
                          There it is.

                          -And poor people who are Republicans don't have the same problems...-

                          Good question.
                          Last edited by dryheat; 04-09-2021, 01:07.
                          If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rayg
                            And poor people who are Republicans don't have the same problems...
                            If a voting restriction causes you to lose 10,000 votes, but it costs me 20,000 votes, then that is a +10,000 swing for you...and as an added bonus you get to claim that elections are more secure because "20,000 fraudulent votes were prevented".

                            And none of the above correlates to any meaningful voter fraud, because nobody has demonstrated anything but stuff in the 0.01% noise level, and 99.9% elections aren't that close.

                            Give credit to Trump for being honest about this one very specific thing, that these rule changes are meant to win elections.

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                            • rayg
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 7444

                              #15
                              Originally posted by togor
                              If a voting restriction causes you to lose 10,000 votes, but it costs me 20,000 votes, then that is a +10,000 swing for you...and as an added bonus you get to claim that elections are more secure because "20,000 fraudulent votes were prevented".

                              And none of the above correlates to any meaningful voter fraud, because nobody has demonstrated anything but stuff in the 0.01% noise level, and 99.9% elections aren't that close.

                              Give credit to Trump for being honest about this one very specific thing, that these rule changes are meant to win elections.
                              Boy you sure lost me on your post! please explain so this not so smart person can understand what you mean by your post? Lol

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