The makeup, back grounds, and comments of the jury members

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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    The makeup, back grounds, and comments of the jury members

    See the article for the racial makeup and the back grounds and comments by the members of the jury!

    Seven women and five men: delivered the guilty verdict heard around the world in the trial of Derek Chauvin..Check out the makeup of the jury

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-Chauvin.html
    Last edited by rayg; 04-21-2021, 05:08.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    People make assumptions about how juries will perform based on their bios going in, but sometimes juries surprise.

    Case in point, the Paul Manafort trial. His lawyers made a major point about this being a politically-motivated trial, and there were some on the jury who agreed with that point, including at least 2 MAGA-strong folks who were not shy about that fact. But, they said, as much as they would have liked it to not be true, the evidence was overwhelming that Manafort had cheated and committed fraud, and so on some counts they voted unanimously to convict.

    So long story short....juror biographies are not preordained verdicts.
    Last edited by togor; 04-21-2021, 04:31.

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    • rayg
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7444

      #3
      you are reaching!

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11269

        #4
        Originally posted by rayg
        you are reaching!
        no , he is correct

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        • rayg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 7444

          #5
          Ok tell me how it's similar no was one killed...

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11269

            #6
            Originally posted by rayg
            Ok tell me how it's similar no was one killed...
            you lost me

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            • rayg
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 7444

              #7
              I was referring to Togors post above..

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11269

                #8
                the jury was thought to be stacked enough to not get a conviction,

                and yet, he did

                not every trial is about a murder

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                • rayg
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 7444

                  #9
                  [QUOTE=lyman;614949]the jury was thought to be stacked enough to not get a conviction,

                  and yet, he did

                  Please explain that...stacked how?

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11269

                    #10
                    [QUOTE=rayg;614953]
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    the jury was thought to be stacked enough to not get a conviction,

                    and yet, he did

                    Please explain that...stacked how?
                    srlsy? as a cop did you never go to trial?


                    prosecutor and or defense attempt to get the best juror possible to see things their way and sway the results,

                    apparently the jurors in the case togor mentioned were thought to not convict,

                    oops, they did,


                    it happens, and not always the way predicted,

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #11
                      Ever been selected for jury? I have come close but not selected. I have known folks who were. Long juries. "Hotel" kind of juries.
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • rayg
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 7444

                        #12
                        I think the prosecutor got the jury he wanted in the picking..Read my post of who they were..had I been a defense attorney I would have eliminated some on that list that did not appear neutral by having read about the case in the news papers who are not known to be pro cop!

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11269

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dryheat
                          Ever been selected for jury? I have come close but not selected. I have known folks who were. Long juries. "Hotel" kind of juries.
                          had jury duty many times,
                          got selected once,


                          after opening arguments we were escorted out, and because of something one of the lawyers said, it was declared a mistrial and we left,

                          it was a long day, but just that day

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                          • M1Tommy
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1027

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dryheat
                            Ever been selected for jury? I have come close but not selected. I have known folks who were. Long juries. "Hotel" kind of juries.
                            Yes, several times. Questioning and subsequent disclosure of my occupation (engineer) caused me to be dismissed every time, except once.
                            That case lasted a long, long week. About 1500 on Friday, we went to the deliberation chamber. I excused myself to the restroom and returned to learn I had been selected jury foreman. I immediately called for a vote, person by person. It was a unanimous "guilty" except for one person. I quieted the room, politely asked the reason for the not-guilty, and was told, "Well, I didn't pay attention to much anything, so I can't vote to put him away since I don't know........" I again quieted the room, gave a 3 minute synopsis, asked for any corrections from other jurors. The sole dissenter then said, "Oh, he's guilty, absolutely." We took another vote, was unanimous this time. I called the bailiff, informed him. He told the judge, who called us in, read the verdict, thanked us for our service and sent us home. Honestly, it was a long, sad week.

                            Now, what was the topic.....
                            Tommy
                            Last edited by M1Tommy; 04-22-2021, 06:42.

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