A World Without the Police

[Vern Humphrey]

Everybody assumes that decent people will withdraw into gated communities, etc. No police ? Who's to stop the Paul Kerseys ? No police ? Who enforces the laws against carrying in states with no CCW ?

Why should unconstitutional laws be enforced?

[Mark in Ottawa]

A couple of my colleagues spent time in Haiti training the police. One of them showed me some photos that a friend who was already there sent up to him. The photos were of a gunfight between various factions and showed one guy getting ready to fire an RPG at his opponents. The other fellow told me that it was so dangerous that when they went on patrol, they were supported by a truckload of UN Peacekeepers. That turned out not to be terribly useful as in one case the troops kept slowing their truck down so that if the police got hit, they would not be caught in the crossfire. My colleague (who was a police corporal) told me that after telling off the army officer twice, he finally threatened to report him for cowardice. (I had best not identify his country of origin). He also said that the police in Haiti had no radios and that he contacted our headquarters in Ottawa and got them to send down a number of working but obsolescent radios for them. From the article it sounds as if they now do have radios but if nobody responds, they are not too useful

[dryheat]

A couple of my colleagues spent time in Haiti training the police. One of them showed me some photos that a friend who was already there sent up to him. The photos were of a gunfight between various factions and showed one guy getting ready to fire an RPG at his opponents. The other fellow told me that it was so dangerous that when they went on patrol, they were supported by a truckload of UN Peacekeepers. That turned out not to be terribly useful as in one case the troops kept slowing their truck down so that if the police got hit, they would not be caught in the crossfire. My colleague (who was a police corporal) told me that after telling off the army officer twice, he finally threatened to report him for cowardice. (I had best not identify his country of origin). He also said that the police in Haiti had no radios and that he contacted our headquarters in Ottawa and got them to send down a number of working but obsolescent radios for them. From the article it sounds as if they now do have radios but if nobody responds, they are not too useful

Haiti? It's an island fer chris sake. Sounds like a place to invest in real estate. Once the goofy import of RPG's is stopped. Wouldn't take much to straighten it out. Maybe a private police force. Good place to practice from the ground up.

[S.A. Boggs]

A couple of my colleagues spent time in Haiti training the police. One of them showed me some photos that a friend who was already there sent up to him. The photos were of a gunfight between various factions and showed one guy getting ready to fire an RPG at his opponents. The other fellow told me that it was so dangerous that when they went on patrol, they were supported by a truckload of UN Peacekeepers. That turned out not to be terribly useful as in one case the troops kept slowing their truck down so that if the police got hit, they would not be caught in the crossfire. My colleague (who was a police corporal) told me that after telling off the army officer twice, he finally threatened to report him for cowardice. (I had best not identify his country of origin). He also said that the police in Haiti had no radios and that he contacted our headquarters in Ottawa and got them to send down a number of working but obsolescent radios for them. From the article it sounds as if they now do have radios but if nobody responds, they are not too useful

Many cops are now slowing down in their response to calls and why not? In America LEGALLY cops do not have to respond to an individual request for help. This is according to a Supreme Court opinion that an individual does not have a Constitutional Right to police protection. The majority of cops have no idea that this legal opinion is out there to help them.
Sam

[lyman]

Haiti? It's an island fer chris sake. Sounds like a place to invest in real estate. Once the goofy import of RPG's is stopped. Wouldn't take much to straighten it out. Maybe a private police force. Good place to practice from the ground up.

I had a Pharmacist working for me part time once,

good looking lady, family had money,
she worked as a floater, filling in at whatever store needed a Rx for the day,

anyhoo, she owned a building that was rented to a methadone clinic, and an artists workshop,,,

she also spent several weeks in the spring, and about a month in the fall in Haiti on a Pharmacist mission with a pile of Dr's and Nurses,

they basically set up a camp to see patients all day, for weeks at a time,

they were set up in a compound, guarded access, security 24/7,

when they got a day off they were allowed to leave , but only in groups, and only with an armed escort,
and they went across the border into the Dom Republic to hit the beaches,,shop etc

they were not allowed to hang out in haiti,,

[S.A. Boggs]

I had a Pharmacist working for me part time once,

good looking lady, family had money,
she worked as a floater, filling in at whatever store needed a Rx for the day,

anyhoo, she owned a building that was rented to a methadone clinic, and an artists workshop,,,

she also spent several weeks in the spring, and about a month in the fall in Haiti on a Pharmacist mission with a pile of Dr's and Nurses,

they basically set up a camp to see patients all day, for weeks at a time,

they were set up in a compound, guarded access, security 24/7,

when they got a day off they were allowed to leave , but only in groups, and only with an armed escort,
and they went across the border into the Dom Republic to hit the beaches,,shop etc

they were not allowed to hang out in haiti,,

Sounds like D.C. [soon to be know a the State of BLM] now.
Sam

[lyman]

nope, I used to , pre cooties, go to DC often,
never had a problem

[barretcreek]

Just saw that 200 Seattle PD have quit or retired. How's that working out?