Dinner pulls handgun on armed BLM protesters

[rayg]

A dinner pulls a handgun on armed BLM protesters being led by a white man!

When are these protestors ever going to catch on that they are being used to destroy our country and the white guy is probably a communist.. Pay attention Togor

"Moment Louisville diner pulls handgun on armed BLM protesters after they surrounded upmarket restaurant during Kentucky Derby demonstration for Breonna Taylor

The unidentified man is thought to have been eating at upmarket La Chasse on Saturday night when he confronted the group of around 50 people

They had been marching ahead of the 147th Kentucky Derby over Taylor's death at the hands of police during a raid at her home last March

Footage shows as the diner points his handgun at protesters who shout at him
A female demonstrator urges the protesters to continue moving down the block

A police spokesperson confirmed that the protesters were also armed
There were at least five arrests; charges include possession of a handgun by a convicted felon, failure to disperse and evading police, according to reports

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...estaurant.html

[togor]

Dinner or diner? A dinner pulling a gun would really be something.

A couple of points Ray:

1. It's not destroying the country to protest grievances. And if you can't figure it out that blacks do have one or two things to gripe about, then you're not paying attention. You never did watch the George Floyd killing did you? Even Trump said it was bad.

2. There's no point in talking about criminals with guns, if the premise is that anyone who wants a gun will always be able to get one, legal or otherwise, as an argument against inconveniencing honest folk with gun laws.

3. If his carry weapon led to a de-escalation, then he handled himself better than most cops of late in that same situation. Good for him.

[rayg]

[QUOTE=togor;615635]Dinner or diner? A dinner pulling a gun would really be something.

A couple of points Ray:

1. It's not destroying the country to protest grievances.

Ray says.. Yes it is with BLM and with the destroying, burning, killing, looting, by them!

[Major Tom]

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[Vern Humphrey]

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And I wonder if he can tell us how many cops have been in a similar situation, and how many handled it worse that the diner. He seems quite prone to making claims he can't back up.

[lyman]

curious about the difference,


if I wanted to protest something, (regardless of what) and marched up and down the street with like minded protestors, that is all good, correct?


however if I was doing so armed, and that may (depending on state laws) be legal, that's ok too, correct?


however, if I was confronting folks having dinner (even at a diner) who are minding their own business, that would not be kosher, correct? esp if I was armed and confrontational,,,,,, correct?



in other words, if folks of any color want to protest, have at it,
leave everyone else, esp those having a night out in an outdoor setting , alone,

protest, shout, wave your signs, and go home afterwards, watch yourself on the news

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And I wonder if he can tell us how many cops have been in a similar situation, and how many handled it worse that the diner. He seems quite prone to making claims he can't back up.

now you gonna make him all mad,
look out for the 'personal attack mantra'

[JB White]

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Togor looses or loses another round?

Loses means a loss.
Looses means he's launching another round.

Added: I read and interpret as written. Tough to understand the point being made when I need to stop and translate. But only if I catch it. Otherwise....

[togor]

Dinner or diner? A dinner pulling a gun would really be something.

A couple of points Ray:

1. It's not destroying the country to protest grievances.

Ray says.. Yes it is with BLM and with the destroying, burning, killing, looting, by them!

Well then we mostly agree and can agree to disagree on the rest.

Personally I think there is another agenda at work if all protests against excessive police violence on blacks are mapped to --> destroying the country.

I mean, that just sounds kind of harsh, right?

But no protest movement, including BLM, is immune from scoundrels and opportunists. And all movements struggle to control those at the margins, or disown them.

[togor]

So Ray, check out the video in this link. Yeah it's CNN and they have their antennae tuned for such stories, but the video speaks for itself.

So the question is....who is doing the destroying here? The student or the teacher with the #$@!-filled rant?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/05/05/new-jersey-teacher-anti-blm-rant-field-pkg-ctn-vpx.cnn

My point being, the whole 'destroying the country' mindset is destructive in its own way.

[rayg]

Couldn't hear it not loud enough on my computer...Oh and does that mean you approve of students recording teachers!.. I though you were against that! Lol

[togor]

Couldn't hear it not loud enough on my computer...Oh and does that mean you approve of students recording teachers!.. I though you were against that! Lol

Interesting point about recording. Don't know NJ's laws on that. In Florida they singled out instructors, for the purpose of burning them. I doubt this girl connected to class with that in mind. So the difference in my opinion is...intent.

As for your computer speakers, a lot would be bleeped out anyways.

Tough deal that this NJ teacher singled out a few students for a special BLM assignment, this not even being the course area.

Ray you ever try to look at George Floyd from a non-police perspective? Whatever Floyd was, the reason his death sparked a big movement is actually easy to get: for 9 minutes he was on the ground, not resisting, and he died anyways, in the hands of police. It should not be hard to understand the kinds of conclusions that people draw from that--about the system, about complying with it, or not, and about the motivations of some police.

As for the teacher. His union probably protects his job to a point. So direct him to take some classes, make him apologize to his students, and if he refuses, then terminate him for cause. But at least give him a chance to clean up his own mess.

[rayg]

for 9 minutes he was on the ground, not resisting, and he died anyways, in the hands of police[/I]. It should not be hard to understand the kinds of conclusions that people draw from that--about the system, about complying with it, or not, and about the motivations of some police.

As for the teacher. His union probably protects his job to a point. So direct him to take some classes, make him apologize to his students, and if he refuses, then terminate him for cause. But at least give him a chance to clean up his own mess.

I never took a position on the Floyd event one way or another..Too many sides to it...And I had always opposed the use of un-necessary force by police officers