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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #1

    More From Loudon County Virginia

    This stuff is getting to be a regular occurrence in northern Virginia:

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    Its getting hot in the school board meetings.
    Last edited by Art; 06-10-2021, 11:02.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    For some reason, as improbable as this might seem, people raised in Communist regimes are the least equipped to cope with the challenges of pluralistic society.

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    • rayg
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7444

      #3
      Teachers and government brain washed them all their life..Now the same thing is happening here!

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11294

        #4
        Originally posted by togor
        For some reason, as improbable as this might seem, people raised in Communist regimes are the least equipped to cope with the challenges of pluralistic society.
        surely you jest

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Ray gets it,

          They can like our ways better than Communism as adults, but that doesn't automatically wipe away the bad habits taught in their youth, like a belief that every problem has an obvious answer.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11294

            #6
            I think you are over thinking it

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Originally posted by lyman
              I think you are over thinking it
              It's overthinking to point out that a Communist upbringing is inconsistent with learning the basics of citizenship in a free society? Hmmm....

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              • Art
                Senior Member, Deceased
                • Dec 2009
                • 9256

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                It's overthinking to point out that a Communist upbringing is inconsistent with learning the basics of citizenship in a free society? Hmmm....
                Yep, and its condescending as well.

                I'll bet she got more education about the basics of citizenship in a free society studying for her Naturalization Test than a lot of kids do in High School. More than that, she knows what she left and what she's got here. The fact that she's speaking frankly in front of a hostile school board shows she has the free society thing down pretty well.

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                • M1Tommy
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1028

                  #9
                  The last paragraph in that article is a condemnation of the parents. I knew what was being taught, and my son's teachers knew that I reviewed their materials. Excepting for a few .... laz.. teacher, his were good, and sound. He learned more about American History than did I in the 70s schools.

                  Tommy

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11294

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Art
                    Yep, and its condescending as well.

                    I'll bet she got more education about the basics of citizenship in a free society studying for her Naturalization Test than a lot of kids do in High School. More than that, she knows what she left and what she's got here. The fact that she's speaking frankly in front of a hostile school board shows she has the free society thing down pretty well.
                    Spot on Art,

                    re the condescending,, togor has that down pretty well

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      Spot on Art,

                      re the condescending,, togor has that down pretty well
                      I'm not sure ya'll are on the same page. I'm guessing Lyman and Togor don't get together at four to discuss moderator stuff.

                      The communism escapee is a little warped from her early experience. But now she shows up and immediately wants to criticize the gov or supers here. So; I knew a guy who left Cuba. He was a little wound up too. But maybe no more than any other male American. Any kind of authority set him off. Not much unlike the guys I went to meetings with. It was oppose everything right off. But, I'm all for conservative(not throwing stuff) debate by normal grownups be it demo, liberal or repub. Heck I'd listen to queers if they don't show up in dresses.
                      Last edited by dryheat; 06-11-2021, 11:48.
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11294

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dryheat
                        I'm not sure ya'll are on the same page. I'm guessing Lyman and Togor don't get together at four to discuss moderator stuff.

                        The communism escapee is a little warped from her early experience. But now she shows up and immediately wants to criticize the gov or supers here. So; I knew a guy who left Cuba. He was a little wound up too. But maybe no more than any other male American. Any kind of authority set him off. Not much unlike the guys I went to meetings with. It was oppose everything right off. But, I'm all for conservative(not throwing stuff) debate by normal grownups be it demo, liberal or repub. Heck I'd listen to queers if they don't show up in dresses.
                        I'm not a Democratic Party shill,



                        re the warped part, she may be , having been indoctrinated (maybe) since she was a child to accept the China Communist Party as the power that be,
                        however she has learned as a Citizen here, that she can criticize the powers that be (in this case a school board) over what she apparently sees as overreach and what she grew up with back in China,

                        it's her Right,,

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #13
                          What they're basically saying is that people can't learn from experience.

                          They're wrong.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11294

                            #14
                            here is another one,, not from VA,


                            North Korean defector and human rights advocate, Yeonmi Park, fears the United States’ future “is as bleak as North Korea” after she attended Columbia University.



                            As American educational institutions continue to be called into question, a North Korean defector fears the United States' future "is as bleak as North Korea" after she attended one of the country's most prestigious universities.

                            Yeonmi Park has experienced plenty of struggle and hardship, but she does not call herself a victim.

                            One of several hundred North Korean defectors settled in the United States, Park, 27, transferred to Columbia University from a South Korean university in 2016 and was deeply disturbed by what she found.


                            "I expected that I was paying this fortune, all this time and energy, to learn how to think. But they are forcing you to think the way they want you to think," Park said in an interview with Fox News. "I realized, wow, this is insane. I thought America was different but I saw so many similarities to what I saw in North Korea that I started worrying."

                            Those similarities include anti-Western sentiment, collective guilt and suffocating political correctness.

                            Yeonmi saw red flags immediately upon arriving at the school.

                            During orientation, she was scolded by a university staff member for admitting she enjoyed classic literature such as Jane Austen.

                            "I said ‘I love those books.’ I thought it was a good thing," recalled Park.

                            "Then she said, 'Did you know those writers had a colonial mindset? They were racists and bigots and are subconsciously brainwashing you.’"

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