Considering the Vaccine?

[lyman]

I think the way to go is forced inoculation with COVID-19 of those who refuse the vax. Then let them develop natural immunity at home. No provision for treating bad cases in hospitals. Just good old fashioned consequences.

you should volunteer to go door to door and attempt it,

[togor]

you should volunteer to go door to door and attempt it,

Just break out the foggers at places where they congregate. Saying it's spraying bugs and no one will think anything of it.

[BudT]

Are you ready for your 3rd shot???????????????????? and how about the every 6 months booster?????????? wheres your papers????????????

[Allen]

Someone mentioned before about why would forced Covid-19 inoculations be any different from forced TB, polio and other forced inoculations required to go to school? The answer is those vaccines, many which are made from dead viruses of the virus being treated, are well proven, tested with time and work.

How many people who got a TB shot caught TB later? How many people who got inoculated later developed polio?

We've all read about politicians and celebrities who caught the Covid after being "fully vaccinated" because things that happen in their lives is hard to keep secret. Now, think of how many thousands (100's of thousands ?) of the general public this happens to. Plus, as there are always some news leaks, many have died from the vaccine itself. I came close myself I belive.

Yes, I agreed to the vaccines for an entirely different reason that you will never hear about on TV. Wife. My wife feels as the same way I do but a couple of people we know died of Covid (or something) and now she feels differently now so she scheduled both of us up for the first shot. I told her before hand I do not react well to flu shots and this was her shot, just my arm.

The shot was nearly painless, didn't even bruise the skin like it did on my daughter, about 4-5 days later all hell broke loose. I'm making all of this as short as possible, believe me. After a lot of elimination of what was going on I discovered I'm having a reaction to the vaccine (Pfizer). I went into severe convulsions for hours at a time my back was drawing up to the point I felt I had to keep pressure on it to keep the mussels from pushing my spine out of place. I can go on but to make it shorter let's just say a had a few sleepless nights. We've all experienced dry heaves but I was having violent convulsions for the first time in my life. The back pain I found out was inflammation of the kidney. Many other things went on as well but doesn't need to be mentioned.

Now for those of you who want the vaccines, the choice, of course is yours just like the choice not to have them is ours and both sides of the fence need to respect the other as in STFU. In my case, I tried for the sake of my wife. I had the shot over 2 weeks ago and I'm scheduled for the second this upcoming weekend. This of course will be cancelled now.

There are 4 vaccines used that I know of. They are all EXPERIMENTAL at the best and no one knows what (if any) side effects they will cause now or years down the road since so many people react differently. For those of you who have had no real ill effect great but what about all those booster shots later? And admit it, there be no end to it because the democrats have been able to politicize it so well to their advantage and they are the ones pushing it.

Is there really a Delta variant? Are there any variants at all or is the same 'ol Covid-19 still around and still growing because the vaccines aren't working? Remember where all the news comes from and anyone who speaks the truth or tries to warm others is quickly banned on Youtube, twitter and facebook as spreading MISINFORMATION.

Also think about how the media claimed covid practically vanished after biden was put into office. Prior to that everyone died of covid, even those that had been sick for years. Now as the dims find they are in trouble with the midterms approaching they can't back peddle about the covid going away so they come up with variants causing all the problems and the need for all the endless booster shots.

In America all you hear about is everyone who gets the vaccinations are all farting rainbows with no problems. Again, those who try to warn others are banned from freedom of speech by being labeled as spreading "misinformation" that the dims don't want to hear and for others to hear about.

In Europe the news was released about possible kidney damage, the same as what happened to me. Here, this article would never have materialized. They are not going to re-new contracts with J&J and AstraZeneca. It is implied that they would also stop the use of Pfizer and Moderna as well but there is nothing to replace them with. All 4 do the same thing and have been found to cause the same side affects.

This is just one article of many.

Whatever you decide and do the best of luck to you but please keep an open mind and realize you're only allowed to hear one side of everything.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...in-condition-2

[Roadkingtrax]

Just break out the foggers at places where they congregate. Saying it's spraying bugs and no one will think anything of it.

They should make it a requirement for getting Medicare and Social Security.

[BudT]

Well done Allen, sorry you have suffered at the hands of the test stuff. It really isn't a vaccine it's a test run of stuff. I completely agree, it is in fact a individual decision on whether or not to take the stuff and without government or a one sided media pushing only one side of it. I could say a lot here but wont just to keep this short but for me until they get a real vaccine that's tested and really works with out injuring or killing 10s of thousands in it's use I'm going to sit it out. No one should be forced to take the shots under threats of the kind that is going on. I'm hoping that something real and safe emerges soon but I'm not to hopeful right now.

BudT

[Allen]

Well done Allen, sorry you have suffered at the hands of the test stuff. It really isn't a vaccine it's a test run of stuff. I completely agree, it is in fact a individual decision on whether or not to take the stuff and without government or a one sided media pushing only one side of it. I could say a lot here but wont just to keep this short but for me until they get a real vaccine that's tested and really works with out injuring or killing 10s of thousands in it's use I'm going to sit it out. No one should be forced to take the shots under threats of the kind that is going on. I'm hoping that something real and safe emerges soon but I'm not to hopeful right now.

BudT

Thanks Bud. After 2 weeks of getting the shot I'm still having complications--not out of the woods yet. Had all night kidney pain just 2 nights ago and now mostly loose bowels. Good thing I'm retired and don't have to hold down a job going through this chit.

[Sandpebble]

Well Allen , now you've started it and we're about to come full circle. Now instead of all deaths being blamed on covid all our illnesses will be blamed on the vaccine .

Just the other day a woman told me " my arm has never been the same" after the injection ......"really "

She also elaborates she doesn't believe masks will help ... she might be right ... but no masks definitely will not and that's a simple given .

Go to the grocery store and peruse the ingredients on tins and jars, packages and even meat products . Heck , some of those ingredients are known carcinogens ...where's the hue and cry ?

We'll eat a damn Slim Jim .... yet we're afraid of a vaccine

[Allen]

I've never had an allergic reaction to a slim jim. Enough of anything will kill you. This was just one tiny shot.

[BudT]

Allen, guys like togor and sandpebbles and a few others are of the mind that you should try another shot so If I were you I wouldn't pay much attention to them. they believe that others are required to take untested stuff, I'm waiting for the real deal not dr. fartseys jungle juice. That is unless you want a argument about everything, they will be happy to accommodate you on that. Hang in there, with any luck that shot didn't do any permanent damage and you can recover fully. Biden is still hiding in his bunker checking for chocolate pants ice cream, someone will eventually push him out with his cards written in crayon red and blame Trump for Afghanistan but it's all his and Barrys and the Dem's.
BudT

[Roadkingtrax]

I wouldn't want BudT to take a vaccine of any kind.

He ain't worth it.

[BudT]

Hooked another one,LOL

[Roadkingtrax]

You better pull pitch before you get your feelings hurt.