Had Her Eyes Gouged Out & they ?Make Animals Feed? On Women?s Bodies

[rayg]

Darn those question marks...

They [Taliban] first torture us [women] and then discard our bodies to show as a specimen of punishment. Sometimes our bodies are fed to dogs. I was lucky I survived it,? she said. One has to live in Afghanistan under the Taliban to even imagine what hell has befallen on women, children and minorities here.?

In the eyes of the Taliban, women are not living, breathing human beings, but merely some meat and flesh to be battered.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/18/a...womens-bodies/

[togor]

Except for the gouging of eyes and feeding to dogs, that attitude towards women--less than full fledged members of society--reminds me of some Biblical conservatives in the USA.

Some see them as breeding stock only.

Sad but true.

[lyman]

Except for the gouging of eyes and feeding to dogs, that attitude towards women--less than full fledged members of society--reminds me of some Biblical conservatives in the USA.

Some see them as breeding stock only.

Sad but true.

name them please?

I know of a couple, one is a muslim enclave in central VA, that does similar, but doubt the are quite as bad as the taliban,


did meet a dude back in the 90's that thought he was some religious leader,
had his wife walk a step behind him when they were together,

he stopped coming to matches when he was told he was welcome to come and shoot, but otherwise stfu

[Art]

[QUOTE=lyman;619898]name them please? /QUOTE]

Big +1. I'd like to know of any recognized denomination or sect of Christians that teaches women are anything close to "breeding stock." Their own religious book (Radical at the time on the subject) specifically repudiates that idea.

[Vern Humphrey]

But that doesn't fit the Three Amigo's narrative, so it can't be true.

[Roadkingtrax]

But that doesn't fit the Three Amigo's narrative, so it can't be true.

Have you asked anyone or speaking for those that you chose to ignore?

You can respond to this.


Thank You Lyman.

[togor]

name them please?

Big +1. I'd like to know of any recognized denomination or sect of Christians that teaches women are anything close to "breeding stock." Their own religious book (Radical at the time on the subject) specifically repudiates that idea.

Art, we've had this conversation already.

If a woman gets pregnant, for whatever reason doesn't want to go through with it, there are those who believe she has no rights at all in this matter. She has to go through with it, no matter what. They don't want her to be able to go before a judge--that's how the Roe decision came about, after all. (And that's what makes Roe devilishly hard to unwind, as no one has quite figured out how to take away the right without fear of unintended consequences.)

Add to this that some religions proscribe any forms of contraception, and there you go: women as breeding stock. Nobody advertises it that way, but it's there just the same.

In extremis to avoid pregnancy she could deny her husband conjugal visits, but that has problems too.

This stuff is easy to find if people have the courage to look. Survivor's stories from hyper-Conservative religious cultures often make it to print.

But Art one cannot say they favor banning all abortions without the reality of that position being a severe curtailment of a woman's rights as a citizen. Women under that regime are second class citizens before the law. Not a truth the anti-abortion people are eager to admit but a truth nonetheless.

[Art]

Art, we've had this conversation already.

If a woman gets pregnant, for whatever reason doesn't want to go through with it, there are those who believe she has no rights at all in this matter. She has to go through with it, no matter what. They don't want her to be able to go before a judge--that's how the Roe decision came about, after all. (And that's what makes Roe devilishly hard to unwind, as no one has quite figured out how to take away the right without fear of unintended consequences.)

Add to this that some religions proscribe any forms of contraception, and there you go: women as breeding stock. Nobody advertises it that way, but it's there just the same.

In extremis to avoid pregnancy she could deny her husband conjugal visits, but that has problems too.

This stuff is easy to find if people have the courage to look. Survivor's stories from hyper-Conservative religious cultures often make it to print.

But Art one cannot say they favor banning all abortions without the reality of that position being a severe curtailment of a woman's rights as a citizen. Women under that regime are second class citizens before the law. Not a truth the anti-abortion people are eager to admit but a truth nonetheless.

The Catholics are the only denomination I know of that prohibits both artificial contraception and, generally abortion. Catholics now, due to the "protestantization" of Catholic lay people, routinely ignore those doctrines because this is a country where you don't have to go along with everything the preacher says. The fact is the Catholic church has no power over what it's members chose to do. Heck Joe Biden is an abortion rights radical, he's in church every Sunday and as far as I know still receives communion in his own diocese. Sounds pretty toothless to me. Frankly, if I disagreed with the doctrines of my church to the extent Joe Biden does I'd find a more compatible denomination, I did.

The fact is, there is no hyper religious culture in Western Civilization. you have to look elsewhere for that.

[lyman]

Art, we've had this conversation already.

If a woman gets pregnant, for whatever reason doesn't want to go through with it, there are those who believe she has no rights at all in this matter. She has to go through with it, no matter what. They don't want her to be able to go before a judge--that's how the Roe decision came about, after all. (And that's what makes Roe devilishly hard to unwind, as no one has quite figured out how to take away the right without fear of unintended consequences.)

Add to this that some religions proscribe any forms of contraception, and there you go: women as breeding stock. Nobody advertises it that way, but it's there just the same.

In extremis to avoid pregnancy she could deny her husband conjugal visits, but that has problems too.

This stuff is easy to find if people have the courage to look. Survivor's stories from hyper-Conservative religious cultures often make it to print.

But Art one cannot say they favor banning all abortions without the reality of that position being a severe curtailment of a woman's rights as a citizen. Women under that regime are second class citizens before the law. Not a truth the anti-abortion people are eager to admit but a truth nonetheless.

the struggle you have with you comments, is apparently very real for you,


are you trying to rationalize your beliefs or admiration for the Islamic cultures in Afghanistan or elsewhere?

or is this still a weak attempt to insult conservatives both on the board and in general?

[jjrothWA]

How about the Kennedy's?

[togor]

the struggle you have with you comments, is apparently very real for you,


are you trying to rationalize your beliefs or admiration for the Islamic cultures in Afghanistan or elsewhere?

or is this still a weak attempt to insult conservatives both on the board and in general?

Why should anyone feel insulted?

The point was raised, that some in the USA see women as breeding stock. (Maybe cooks and maids too, but that's not the point.)

When asked how, an answer was given. If you want to dispute the logic of that answer, then dispute it, with reason. So far you haven't. Maybe you agree with it then, just don't like seeing it brought up.

Nobody being insulted here. Argue points not personalities. This is a tough point for sure but we're all adults, in possession of our faculties. We can handle it.

[lyman]

endless words that mean nothing
twisting and turning in the breeze,


broad brush strokes, that are so vague or meaningless, and off track from the questions posed,



let us know, Jen,, when you are planning on circling back to the answer,

[togor]

All I see is a guy frustrated that he can't nail me to the mast of his choosing.

If my posts bore you then by all means skip them. I promise you the rules will be followed.

[lyman]

just provide the answers , if you have none, then say so,

it's ok to admit you were either wrong in your post, or that you don't have evidence of what you proclaim,


it's not that hard,


in order to argue a point, you have to actually provide a point, and when questioned or countered, be able to show evidence,


the 2 threads you are T&T'ing on are examples of making a statement and then back peddling so hard you are cavitating,,,,,

[kj47]

Boy, that guy would make a typical politician with all the T&T'ing.