The best time for the Chinese to attack Taiwan ...

[dogtag]

is while Biden is still Presiden., But that could come to an end in November 2024
and that election could usher in Trump or someone with the same beliefs, so best to
launch the attack around election time. That would cause confusion, but as it's
usual for voters to "not change horses mid stream", it would ensure Biden's
re-election. China then wins Taiwan and a wimp American President for another
four years.

[Roadkingtrax]

China is weaker than your afternoon tea.

Why spread propaganda for them, when the Taiwanese are clearly not helpless?

[lyman]

want to prevent China from doing any thing??

stop buying the stuff they make,

[Johnny P]

Depends on whether Trump had any type of agreements, treaties, etc. with Taiwan. If so, Biden will want to make those null and void regardless of the outcome.

[barretcreek]

China wants Taiwan's industrial base. Hard to do after blowing it up. that's why the propaganda storm about 'don't expect U.S. help; just surrender'.

[togor]

Our high tech weaponry is loaded with integrated circuits that are packaged in Taiwan. For this reason alone I think the order would be given to fight.

An important point is that Taiwan isn't on the mainland (obviously). That means the Chinese have to cross the water to get troops there. So the Chinese would have to fight their way ashore whereas we would not.

An open question is whether or not Japan and the ROK would come in.

[dogtag]

No one will go in without American involvement which is extremely unlikely.

[BudT]

Agree, don't buy their chit and they get the message. Now suggestions for some one else's stuff to buy will be entertained. I already avoid their chit like the plague and have given up some things all together but am always looking for the alternative.

[togor]

Then again maybe they stop buying our soybeans and pork.

But hey if we can figure out a way to make brake rotors out of compressed pork rinds and soybean hulls then it's all good.

[lyman]

Then again maybe they stop buying our soybeans and pork.

But hey if we can figure out a way to make brake rotors out of compressed pork rinds and soybean hulls then it's all good.

they own most of the pork they buy,


if you recall, the Chinese bought Smithfield a good while ago,


we had no issues making brake rotors before, it's just the Chinese ones are cheaper

[Art]

It is important to remember that diplomatically Taiwan doesn't exist. Legally its a province of China that China doesn't govern...yet. Until a fairly recently Taiwan wasn't even allowed to have an Olympic team. Since internationally everybody has conceeded that Taiwan is part of China "on paper" it's not unreasonable to think the ChiComs will increase the pressure to make that happen.

There are a lot of things the Chinese can do to put the heat on Taiwan short of invasion and I expect them to start ramping those things up. They could claim (and that claim would be technically correct) that due to the international "One China Policy" Taiwan is within their territorial waters. For starters they could begin harassing international shipping going into and out of Taiwan, not stopping it, just making it uncomfortable. They could also begin seizing Taiwanese fishing vessels or confiscating their catch. Then they'd wait to see what we did about it.

I agree that not buying Chinese products where possible is a really good idea. It's hard to execute and involves reading a lot of labels but I've been able to cut down on my consumption of Chinese goods. In fact, when I buy foreign manufactured goods I try to give preference to products from countries that are at odds with the ChiComs like Vietnam or Taiwan.

[m1903rifle]

We made brake rotors in this country before the Chicoms knew what a brake was.

[Mike in NC]

Two of the many things I will never forgive Jimmy Carter for are agreeing to the "One China" policy, abandoning the recognition of Taiwan as a country and giving away the Panama canal to China. It is a long list, but those have to be near the top.

[dogtag]

Americans giving up Chinese galvanized pipe is a lot easier than the Chinese giving up food.