The Political Shift among Latinos in Texas

[Art]

This is an article from Texas Monthly, a left leaning glossy cultural Texas magazine. It gets almost, but not quite everything, right about the political situation with Hispanics in Texas and, also, though not mentioned, Florida.

The article is long.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-po...latinos-trump/

[togor]

Possibly written before the Taliban takeover of the state. Reasonable to assume the regime is not done issuing fresh edicts there, as drafted by their leading (and unelected) clerics.

That's sarcasm, Art, but much of politics as you know is about selling a message about one's opponent. There's no question Texas will be painted as the poster child for sinister anti-Democratic forces. If the regime thinks that is unfair they are free to argue with such facts and evidence that they think supports their case.

[Art]

Possibly written before the Taliban takeover of the state. Reasonable to assume the regime is not done issuing fresh edicts there, as drafted by their leading (and unelected) clerics.

That's sarcasm, Art, but much of politics as you know is about selling a message about one's opponent. There's no question Texas will be painted as the poster child for sinister anti-Democratic forces. If the regime thinks that is unfair they are free to argue with such facts and evidence that they think supports their case.

The numbers don't lie.

[togor]

What you say is true.

But politics are fluid as well.

Newsome ran against Trump, Texas and Florida and survived the recall handily.

[Art]

Newsome won about 2-1 which is about the ration of Democrats to Republicans, no surprise there.

The article appears in the October issue of Texas Monthly so it is brand new.

We'll see how it shakes out in 13 1/2 months.

[togor]

We can both be right. Texas Republicans can be consolidating electorate gains within the state, even as their rule is held up nationally as a menace to liberty and democracy (small d).

Probably you would tell outsiders the place really isn't as crazy as it looks, but you don't have time to talk to everyone, right?

[lyman]

Possibly written before the Taliban takeover of the state. Reasonable to assume the regime is not done issuing fresh edicts there, as drafted by their leading (and unelected) clerics.

That's sarcasm, Art, but much of politics as you know is about selling a message about one's opponent. There's no question Texas will be painted as the poster child for sinister anti-Democratic forces. If the regime thinks that is unfair they are free to argue with such facts and evidence that they think supports their case.

lay off the insults to the Texans

[togor]

lay off the insults to the Texans

No individual Texan is getting insulted any more than any individual Californian is insulted by a forum reference to "Commiefornia". We've all seen worse. Don't recall you ever saying

"lay off the insults to California"

Fact is, Texas is now a factor in national politics. That is a legitimate issue. It's not raised to antagonize anybody. Art gets that if you do not.

[lyman]

you gonna get Pat to xxx the word taliban???


don't be a stoo ge

[m1ashooter]

Actually as a Texan I'm frigging insulted by your comment even it was in jest or sarcasm. I ask that you choose your words more carefully because the Taliban are pure evil in my opinion.

[togor]

Actually as a Texan I'm frigging insulted by your comment even it was in jest or sarcasm. I ask that you choose your words more carefully because the Taliban are pure evil in my opinion.

Obviously the label doesn't apply to you or any other forum member. If that wasn't clear, let me make it so now.

And nobody is expecting you to either identify with or defend the people who passed these laws, and other extreme laws to come.

But the fact is, states do screwy things sometimes, and Texas is no exception.

Is there going to be a general ban here on saying unflattering things about any of the 50 states? Or just the red ones? Or just Texas?

[lyman]

Obviously the label doesn't apply to you or any other forum member. If that wasn't clear, let me make it so now.

And nobody is expecting you to either identify with or defend the people who passed these laws, and other extreme laws to come.

But the fact is, states do screwy things sometimes, and Texas is no exception.

Is there going to be a general ban here on saying unflattering things about any of the 50 states? Or just the red ones? Or just Texas?

how about just a member, who is listed as a moderator, listen for once and actually do the right thing and drop the name,,


esp since that member cried so much over a word like SToo ge that it was triggered in the nanny ware,


kinda makes that member look a bit foolish, well actually a lot foolish, and a hypocrite,


and maybe the next time that said member whines about some name used somewhere, this post will be used to tell said member to get over it???

[togor]

Lyman,

Do you aspire to moderate or censor the forum? There's a difference.

Right now there's a post bashing Philadelphia waiting to be cleaned up by a moderator.

Posts bashing California, New York, Chicago etc. not far away.

As for st--ges it never bothered me personally. Get the word off the black list and back in play for all I care.

[lyman]

Lyman,

Do you aspire to moderate or censor the forum? There's a difference.

Right now there's a post bashing Philadelphia waiting to be cleaned up by a moderator.

Posts bashing California, New York, Chicago etc. not far away.

As for st--ges it never bothered me personally. Get the word off the black list and back in play for all I care.

I do moderate, and if necessary due to language, censor, (per the rules)


and am fairly consistent in it,


remember,,, you past haunts you, and now that you are a mod,,, maybe it's time to act like one,,

it's been a year or so, you have catching up to do


or you can continue to be part of the problem,, (hence the word hypocrite),,,,,


do we need to have a conversation about acceptable nicknames for states vs some newly made up crap you came up with that is insulting?

[togor]

Lyman:

Insulting California is okay and Texas not okay?

Until you clarify that, nothing about this conversation makes any sense.

Back to the OP: Art's post is a good read.