Every Armed Service member should refuse the vax ...

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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Every Armed Service member should refuse the vax ...

    What will they do ? give thousands of service men and women a dishon ?
    Hospitals are running out of Nurses because they said Up Yours to the vax
    mandate. Once you give in to a questionable and unnecessary order you're
    on the hook for other mandates that will surely follow.
    Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.
    If a restaurant refuses service without a vax, go somewhere else and never
    frequent that restaurant again. Same with Stores. There's always an
    alternative. Don't let the bastards win.
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    So now you want them to disobey orders?

    Come'on Man!
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      Service members cannot refuse to be vaccinated. That's long established. George Washington ordered the American Army inoculated for small pox.

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        Any order can be refused. If you were ordered to shoot unarmed
        civilians or prisoners - sounds like you'd do it.
        The Smallpox vac worked. This one is highly questionable.

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        • BudT
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2508

          #5
          It's your choice to take the stuff or not to take the stuff and no one has any right to force or demand you do either one. Your decision.
          I DDUW BO'R DIOLCH

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Originally posted by BudT
            It's your choice to take the stuff or not to take the stuff and no one has any right to force or demand you do either one. Your decision.
            Kinda right, kinda wrong. Sure no one will hold you down and stick a needle in you, but at the same time, you cannot force others to put up with you unvaccinated. If your employer wants you vaccinated, and you refuse, then they can refuse to employ you.

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              Originally posted by dogtag
              Any order can be refused. If you were ordered to shoot unarmed
              civilians or prisoners - sounds like you'd do it.
              The Smallpox vac worked. This one is highly questionable.
              But those who refuse orders must take the consequences.

              During the Civil War, a Confederate regiment mutinied and the Colonel sent a message to Stonewall Jackson, asking what he should do. Jackson said to the officer who delivered the message, "Why does he ask me? He knows what to do -- fusillade them!"

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                Of course you have to take your medicine, that goes without saying.
                Robots are programmed to obey orders, we're not. Well, maybe some are.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dogtag
                  Of course you have to take your medicine, that goes without saying.
                  Robots are programmed to obey orders, we're not. Well, maybe some are.
                  DT,

                  Vern is right. Now that I said that he could change his position!

                  But seriously, show me a successful military where orders are to be considered advisory, mere suggestions or general guidelines. Neither the English or Prussians operated that way!

                  Line up and vaccinated, deloused, whatever, goes back to the beginning.

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                  • dogtag
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 14985

                    #10
                    I had all the childhood jabs plus the Army ones - all proven to be excellent against whatever.
                    These Covid jabs are far from proven. First they were developed far too quickly without
                    lengthy testing. They now need an untold number of boosters because those that have been
                    vaccinated are still catching the covid. We're now at booster #3. Any advance on three ?
                    There are multiples of side-effects, some even lethal. I haven't had it, nor will I.
                    I have never had the flu, never had the vax for it. Never had any of the childhood afflictions,
                    chickenpox, measles, mumps even though my siblings did. Maybe I'm immortal ?

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Maybe you are immortal DT, in which case please put in a good word for some of us (including me) when the galactic overlords come to add you to the circle.

                      Meanwhile, from what I can see they're not flying as blind on the vaccine as your post suggests.
                      Last edited by togor; 09-25-2021, 04:29. Reason: Spelling

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                      • Johnny P
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6269

                        #12
                        It is a proven fact that 90% of those in the hospital with covid and 90% that die from covid are unvaccinated. The vaccination does not give you immunity from the virus, but it lessens your chances of getting the virus and the severity should you get the virus.

                        As with anything you put in your body, side effects are possible. Just read the warnings on an aspirin bottle.

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                        • dogtag
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 14985

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor
                          Maybe you are immortal DT, in which case please put in a good word for some of us (including me) when the galactic overlords come to add you to the circle.

                          Meanwhile, from what I can see they're not flying as blind on the vaccine as your post suggests.
                          I'll put in a good word for you when I next visit Mount Olympus

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