"Blood Is On Your Hands"

[Major Tom]

Great new tune BTW! Tells about Biden's tragic Afgan withdrawal!

[togor]

Do the lyrics include a verse where the cease fire with the Taliban would be called off if we stayed and then we have to send in more troops to wrangle with them again? Because they were ready to create martyrs by the score to bleed the foreign occupiers. That's basically their jam.

Some complexity in that so if put to music in a catchy way I'd be impressed.

[Johnny P]

Biden did the pull out to the best of his ability, and it couldn't have been any more screwed up.

[togor]

Biden did the pull out to the best of his ability, and it couldn't have been any more screwed up.

We'd need a supply of alternate universes to really know, but 100K Afghans out says they did something.

Story is that the bomber was released from jail by the Taliban days before he blew himself up. Like I said, they were ready to start killing Americans again.

Had this same outcome occurred under Trump then that side would be singing a different tune, about how the Taliban or ISIS is to blame for the bombing, not Biden, and Trump got our people out of there like he said he would. More likely, Trump bitches about but doesn't overrule the generals and we're still there, only fighting the Taliban some more and taking American KIAs. For what, exactly?

My view....messy but nobody has explained how it could have been otherwise. Ever watch dogs in a tense encounter? When one turns its back the other strikes. Disengaging is always a difficult business.

[one shot]

It's over and we did more than we should have for 20 years .

[Major Tom]

Do the lyrics include a verse where the cease fire with the Taliban would be called off if we stayed and then we have to send in more troops to wrangle with them again? Because they were ready to create martyrs by the score to bleed the foreign occupiers. That's basically their jam.

Some complexity in that so if put to music in a catchy way I'd be impressed.

you did not listen to the tune did you?! It's about the death of 13 troops and how Biden shamed their families!

[togor]

you did not listen to the tune did you?! It's about the death of 13 troops and how Biden shamed their families!

Shamed their families how? By showing up for the memorial service?

Songs are not reality.

[dryheat]

- but 100K Afghans out says they did something.-

How is that an improvement? Billions spent and now we have a pile of Afghans.

[Johnny P]

"Troops out first!" The rest of you do the best you can?

[dryheat]

The desert dwellers have been trading for a couple of thousand years. We got snockered.