WW1 in the Trenches and the Gallipoli campaign ...

[dogtag]

All credits are to British Troops, but Gallipoli was an Ozzie affair and
a Churchill screw up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-battles.html

One guy was issued a Long Lee ?

[bruce]

One photograph is remarkable ... shows one man apparently spotting with a periscope while another uses a similar mirrored device to aim a rifle to snipe at someone in presumably the enemy trench. Could of course have been staged. No way to know. Sincerely. bruce.

[lyman]

All credits are to British Troops, but Gallipoli was an Ozzie affair and
a Churchill screw up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-battles.html

One guy was issued a Long Lee ?

looks like it,

and a couple more in the background too



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considering a lot were converted to CLLE's,, (mine is dated 1910) I guess they were issued as well?

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and another



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is that a Flanders Flap on the SMLE in the background (with bayonets?)

[rayg]

The last photo are of US troops! with 1917 rifles!

[Vern Humphrey]

I recommend Carlyon's "Gallipoli." He fairly conclusively demonstrates the Brits lost because the Turks were better, especially their officers.

[dogtag]

There may have been British Troops there, but it was mostly Aussies.

Many British High ranking Officers should have been hanged

[jjrothWA]

Locate Wm. Manchester, biography of Winston Churchill, [three volumes] and read that Churchill did his job and the High British officers fell flat on their face.

they had a plan that called for three obsolete battleships to run the Dardanelles straits to remove the known minefield , instead the admiral decide to not use them that way and the Turks were on the ball.

Then read about Churchill being in charge of the munitions ministry and clean and upgraded efficiency to the get the troops what was needed and on time.

[PWC]

One photograph is remarkable ... shows one man apparently spotting with a periscope while another uses a similar mirrored device to aim a rifle to snipe at someone in presumably the enemy trench.

Yes pic #6; wish the camera had been tipped a little more up... looks like the same setup used by -03 or -14, -17....

[Art]

All credits are to British Troops, but Gallipoli was an Ozzie affair and
a Churchill screw up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-battles.html

One guy was issued a Long Lee ?

Actually British troops outnumbered the Australians at Gallipoli by more than 3-1. There were in fact slightly more French troops engaged than Australians during the Gallipoli mess. The contribution of the ANZACs in men and blood has become so legendary in Australia and New Zealand and the accounts of the sacrifices of Australian troops recounted so often in literature and film it's easy to fall into the idea that the Australians supplied the vast majority of the troops engaged.

And yes, the group of troops in the last photo is armed with Long Lee Enfields. During the war there was a desperate shortage of rifles and every suitable .303 rifle was pressed into service including all available long rifles. Things were so bad that the Royal Navy was issued large numbers of Arisakas.

[Vern Humphrey]

There may have been British Troops there, but it was mostly Aussies.

Many British High ranking Officers should have been hanged

That's true -- the Turks ran rings around them. The British commander at Suvla Bay, Sir Frederick Stopford, was so out of touch that when he saw -- through binoculars -- his troops lying dead on the high ground, he sent a message that they had almost succeeded, but they "lay down and quit."