Everyone wants Rittenhouse aquitted - especially the thugs ...

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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Everyone wants Rittenhouse aquitted - especially the thugs ...

    They're poised with their rocks and matches waiting to start on their rampage.
    They could riot anyway no matter the verdict, but it's better to have a real
    excuse because that way means they won't get arrested. Like before.

    For my part, I can't figure out what the jury is finding to discuss or maybe
    argue about when the prosecution was a dud. Of course they have been
    threatened with violence if they vote to aquit.
  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #2
    The way it usually works, observations from one who has been a case agent on criminal cases that went to trial and after retirement was also a juror, including on a criminal case .

    The Jury goes into the jury room and orders coffee.

    They vote on a Fore person.

    They will often have a preliminary vote, I recall in the juries I was on this was usually a show of hands but it may be by secret ballot.

    Then they start an examination of each count whether the vote (if they had one) is unanimous or not.

    In a case like this one a quick verdict, less than 8 - 10 hours is generally considered good for the prosecution. Longer than that is generally seen as good for the defense. If it goes past 3 days or so folks start to worry about a hung jury.

    I've served on two juries, one civil (medical malpractice) and one criminal, (indecency with a child.) Both cases were very clear cut and we were back in about four hours in each with a verdict. We found for the doc in the malpractice case and convicted in the indecency with a child case.

    Juries usually want to stay out for at least a few hours because it looks bad if they come back too fast.
    Last edited by Art; 11-16-2021, 11:06.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      Also a plus if the food's good. I assume they stay overnight or can they go home ?

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        Originally posted by dogtag
        Also a plus if the food's good. I assume they stay overnight or can they go home ?
        Never had jury duty? Well, you would have to be a citizen of the United States first.

        🤔 Hmmm
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • Art
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Dec 2009
          • 9256

          #5
          Juries usually get to go home because keeping them in hotels (sequestration) is darned expensive. It's a pain in the neck for everybody because, for example, you can't leave your room during the trial and every piece of paper you get is censored if you are on a sequestered jury.

          How much you get depends on the Jurisdiction. In Texas a Juror gets $22.00 a day which will just about pay your parking, but if you take the bus downtown, that's free so the $22.00 make up for what you spent for lunch instead of parking (no they don't buy you lunch.) Jurors and Jury pools are escorted and watched by Bailiffs for lunch. Where the Bailiffs like to eat is where you eat which means the food is, indeed pretty good. Treebeards (yummy chow) in downtown Houston used to be popular with the said Bailiffs.
          Last edited by Art; 11-16-2021, 04:40.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11269

            #6
            been quite a few years since I had jury duty, but I wanna say it was $10 a day,

            last time for county was in the 90's

            Fed,, had that once, but never selected,

            guess an Exile case, with a white male juror reading Tubb's book on shooting high power was not conducive to the lawyers involved,,


            never go to jury duty without reading material , free pro tip

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            • Major Tom
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 6181

              #7
              Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
              Never had jury duty? Well, you would have to be a citizen of the United States first.

              �� Hmmm
              Why are obcessed with Dogtag's citizenship? He lives here in the U.S. so has to endure what the dimocrat commies are doing to us.

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              • rayg
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7444

                #8
                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                Never had jury duty? Well, you would have to be a citizen of the United States first.

                �� Hmmm
                He's a broken record using that citizen bit all the time!

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11269

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rayg
                  He's a broken record using that citizen bit all the time!
                  ray

                  I have to agree

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                  • Roadkingtrax
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 7835

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Major Tom
                    Why are obcessed with Dogtag's citizenship? He lives here in the U.S. so has to endure what the dimocrat commies are doing to us.
                    play nice
                    Last edited by lyman; 11-20-2021, 03:18.
                    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                    • Roadkingtrax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 7835

                      #11
                      Not sure what you mean here Tom.
                      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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