Lack of humanity as cop is fired for refusing to give medical treatment

[rayg]

Callous lack of humanity': Denver cop is fired for refusing to give medical treatment

I'd be willing to bet he was not fired for failure to give medical aid, but for not getting his shot and maybe coupled with other past violations including for not having his police-issue tourniquet on him, and not for failure to give medical aid unless he was trained for it and it was spelled out in his job description.

Callous lack of humanity': Denver cop is fired for refusing to give medical treatment to 18-year-old who had been shot at apartment complex parking lot

JaLonte Jones, 18, was found lying in the road in the south east of Denver on September 7, 2020

The responding officer, Dewayne Rodgers, called an ambulance but did not attempt to render medical assistance

Jones was begging for help, telling Rodgers: 'I'm dying' - but Rodgers repeatedly asked Jones his name, where he lived, and who shot him instead

Jones died in hospital, and the man accused of shooting him was arrested and charged, and sentenced in October this year to 10 years in prison for assault

Rodgers told investigators that he did not have his police-issue tourniquet on him, as has been standard for Denver police since 2014

He also said he was worried about causing more harm than good, and did not have his latex gloves on him

But the Denver police force fired him on November 22, finding that he had shown a lack of humanity


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[bruce]

Once upon a time it was not unusual to see "To Protect and Serve" on the doors of patrol cars. Over time, that motto went away. Much to much has gone away ... and not only with the police. Sincerely. bruce.

[dryheat]

I hope he gets his job back. Who wants to get blood all over them.

[togor]

Bruce is right. Macho tough guy with a gun but put a little blood in front of him and he turns into a scared, toneless bureaucrat filling out paperwork. Everyone knows you put pressure on the wound and put the person in the shock position until help arrives.

The Lowe's and Home Depot's in Colorado must be getting full of ex-cops by now.

[rayg]

Bruce is right. Macho tough guy with a gun but put a little blood in front of him and he turns into a scared, toneless bureaucrat filling out paperwork. Everyone knows you put pressure on the wound and put the person in the shock position until help arrives.

The Lowe's and Home Depot's in Colorado must be getting full of ex-cops by now.

You say Bruce is right! I didn't read were he said that he was a Macho tough guy with a gun but put a little blood in front of him and he turns into a scared, toneless bureaucrat filling out paperwork. Did I miss that?

[lyman]

Bruce is right. Macho tough guy with a gun but put a little blood in front of him and he turns into a scared, toneless bureaucrat filling out paperwork. Everyone knows you put pressure on the wound and put the person in the shock position until help arrives.

The Lowe's and Home Depot's in Colorado must be getting full of ex-cops by now.

you would be surprised of the number of ex cops in the AP business,

some are there because they were outed, as in undercover and someone outed them, so they quit the PD and moved on,, (not exactly safe for them or the family to stay)

but most are folks that flunked out for whatever reason, or wanna be's that have a chip on the shoulder,

AP in retail is almost as bad as HR,,

[togor]

You say Bruce is right! I didn't read were he said that he was a Macho tough guy with a gun but put a little blood in front of him and he turns into a scared, toneless bureaucrat filling out paperwork. Did I miss that?

I agree with Bruce that the cop should have rendered aid. Filling out the interview form while the victim bleeds out seems a toneless bureaucrat thing to. And again if blood makes this ex-cop swoon then go sell paint or lumber.

[rayg]

I agree with Bruce that the cop should have rendered aid. Filling out the interview form while the victim bleeds out seems a toneless bureaucrat thing to. And again if blood makes this ex-cop swoon then go sell paint or lumber.

Again I didn't read where the blood made him swoon! Am I missing it?

[togor]

Again I didn't read where the blood made him swoon! Am I missing it?

Are you always this literal?

For whatever reason, and maybe you can get his phone # and call him, he chose not to render aid to a citizen who was bleeding out. Him "swooning" is sarcasm. His actual motives may remain unknown to us.

Seems to me like you are nitpicking my reply to avoid discussing the central issue here, which is: for a few minutes, he was this man's best shot at staying alive, and he willfully chose to not render even minimal first aid.

I do wonder: if his partner was shot and bleeding out, would he similarly decline to give first aid?

[rayg]

Why do you hate the police so much? Is there something that happened to you in you in your life that is causing that hate! You always post negative things about the police so something must be the reason for it. Come on confess, Lol

[togor]

Why do you hate the police so much? Is there something that happened to you in you in your life that is causing that hate! You always post negative things about the police so something must be the reason for it. Come on confess, Lol

In my view you're the one who is undermining the institution by arguing for low standards. I value GOOD policing more than you do, apparently. To get GOOD policing, there has to be consequences for those who fail to measure up.

You make too many excuses for iffy cops whose stories get posted here. Bureaucrats with guns is not what we need out there.

[rayg]

In my view you're the one who is undermining the institution by arguing for low standards. I value GOOD policing more than you do, apparently. To get GOOD policing, there has to be consequences for those who fail to measure up.

You make too many excuses for iffy cops whose stories get posted here. Bureaucrats with guns is not what we need out there.

When Have I ever argued for incidents of low standards in the police and make excuses for iffy cops. But you seem to always hunt for and only post about incidents involving an officer or an incident involving poor police work out of the hundreds of thousands of hours of good police work done by the many officers! No other poster does as you do! I'd say that tells me you may have had a personal problem in the past involving the police maybe because of an incident that you were involved in with the police? You work in industrial type work and I'm sure there are poor employees in that profession! And I'm also sure you have no idea what's all involved in police work except what you see on TV or hear. Also there are bad apples in every occupation but few are as Managerial watched and eliminated because of the the liabilities and deadly power the profession has. Also there are few other professions that are as publicly scrutinized as the police are, and police do make a lot of enemies by criminals and people they have arrested, who tend to very much dislike the police, Lol...

[togor]

Ray,

Should the cop be fired for letting the guy bleed out. Yes or no?

You wrote the OP. But you never said whether or not this was a good call to cut the guy loose. Well? I'm asking!

[rayg]

Unless it was in his job description to render medical aid, there was no violation despite your or my opinions, also was the cop aware of the bleeding or was the bleeding internal! More information on the incident is needed. Yes I would have tried to stop the bleeding if I knew were the bleeding was coming from, but the question was should that cop have tried to stop the bleeding or did he violate a department written policy by not doing so!

[bruce]

Just a quick note. Job description is just that ... description. It is not all inclusive. It only serves to indicate what is expected. Service. Any public servant who cannot serve the public, whether police, fire, emergency, etc., has no reason to expect to be employed as a public servant. If this gentleman is not able to serve the public, he will doubtless be able to find employment or start a business where he will not have to deal with the general public. Sincerely. bruce.