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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #1

    Hispanic Vote

    A recent Wall Street Journal poll shows the Hispanic vote split right down the middle - 37% Democrat, 37% Republican 26% Independent/I don't know.

    This is just one poll but reflects national trends. If it plays out this way in the next Federal elections there will be no joy in Democrat Mudville.

    Oh, one more thing. Current polling in Texas shows Robert Francis "Beto" O'Rourke trailing Gov. "Grabbit" by 15 points. Abbott isn't the strongest governor and this doesn't bode well for the Democrats turning Texas blue. Right now I think it possible that the Republicans will sweep all of the Congressional Seats in the Texas Rio Grande Valley except, possibly, Henry Cuellar.
    Last edited by Art; 12-09-2021, 06:55.
  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10580

    #2
    Originally posted by Art
    Current polling in Texas shows Robert Francis "Beto" O'Rourke trailing Gov. "Grabbit" by 15 points.
    Texas wasn't a good place to try to pull that chit. Not very bright. What's alarming is that it is only by 15 points.
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    • bruce
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3759

      #3
      What level of stupid does it display when someone tries to mess with Texas? Sincerely. bruce.
      " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11266

        #4
        hopefully someone will point out to the masses every day that Beto is as much a Hispanic as Warren is a Native American,

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Art, the Feds are suing Texas for gerrymandering the Hispanics into irrelevance. So I'm wagering yours is the contrarian view among Texas Republicans. No worries your secret is safe here!

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #6
            The lawsuit is so preposterous it is laughable. In essence the Feds are saying the minorities should have as many votes as the majority.

            Eligible black voters are 13.4% of the population and Latinos are 18%. The Feds are trying to force Texas to district voters in order to see that 31.4% of the population gets 50% of the votes.

            Maybe the new Constitution will specify that only minorities can vote or hold elected offices?

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            • Art
              Senior Member, Deceased
              • Dec 2009
              • 9256

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              Art, the Feds are suing Texas for gerrymandering the Hispanics into irrelevance. So I'm wagering yours is the contrarian view among Texas Republicans. No worries your secret is safe here!
              Latinos are 38% of the population of Texas. It's hard to gerrymander that many people into irrelevance.

              Political gerrymandering is legal and racial gerrymandering isn't. The only grounds for the Feds to sue is racial gerrymandering so that's what they're using. Lets see how much effect it has.

              Republicans in Texas, as I've said many times, routinely get 40% of the Latino vote in statewide elections. As long as they do that they'll control the state.....simple. If the current trends continue and the WSJ poll is anything like accurate the Dems are in for a rough time in The Lone Star State.

              A long term Latino Dem Texas legislator, Ryan Guillan of Rio Grande City, recently changed his affiliation from Democrat to Republican and he's in the heart of Tejano Texas.
              Last edited by Art; 12-09-2021, 03:12.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                Never underestimate the stupidity of your average voter who gets
                his or her news via CNN and the other ABCs.
                That includes all three colors.
                I saw a recent poll that showed preference for Biden versus Trump almost 50-50.

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                • Roadkingtrax
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 7835

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dogtag
                  Never underestimate the stupidity of your average voter who gets
                  his or her news via CNN and the other ABCs.
                  That includes all three colors.
                  I saw a recent poll that showed preference for Biden versus Trump almost 50-50.
                  Don't underestimate the stupidity of a non-voter either.
                  "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11266

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                    Don't underestimate the stupidity of a non-voter either.
                    he has a point,

                    piss off the soccer moms and they will vote you out , despite what the winner is,

                    same with some other voter blocks,

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Art
                      ....
                      Political gerrymandering is legal and racial gerrymandering isn't. The only grounds for the Feds to sue is racial gerrymandering so that's what they're using. Lets see how much effect it has.
                      ...
                      Interesting statement. But in keeping with where the court is at these days, I'll agree.

                      So racial gerrymandering becomes legal if it can be shown to be political. Which means there is an incentive to politicize racial issues.

                      Wow suddenly a bunch of puzzle pieces fall into place don't they. A portrait of our times.

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                      • Art
                        Senior Member, Deceased
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9256

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Interesting statement. But in keeping with where the court is at these days, I'll agree.

                        So racial gerrymandering becomes legal if it can be shown to be political. Which means there is an incentive to politicize racial issues.

                        Wow suddenly a bunch of puzzle pieces fall into place don't they. A portrait of our times.
                        It's a fine line, literally sometimes.

                        The City of Houston like almost all major cities is run by Democrats. While elections here are officially "non partisan" everybody knows the real deal. The city council is majority Democrat and in my 40+ years here the mayor has always been a Democrat.

                        I live in Houston City Council District "E." what people my age still sometimes call "Occupied Kingwood." In the 1990s the City of Houston annexed Kingwood for the usual reasons, high tax base and excellent amenities they wouldn't have to supply. There was a fly in the buttermilk. Kingwood was overwhelmingly white, conservative and Republican. The natural thing would have been to fold Kingwood into District "B" just south of it. Adding 160,000 conservatives to District "B" which is Democrat and largely minority (Latino/Black) might make District "B" competitive.

                        What to do? The City Council put Kingwood in District "E" which includes the Space Center and is politically a lot like Kingwood. Now the fact that Kingwood is the furthest north community in Houston and the existing District "E" is the furthest south community didn't matter. The two communities are 40 miles apart and essentially connected on the map by a ditch. This insured District "B" remained Democrat.

                        That is obvious (and extreme) gerrymandering. It was ruled legal because the motives were ruled to be political and not racial.
                        Last edited by Art; 12-10-2021, 11:27. Reason: Accuracy

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11266

                          #13
                          same thing here in central VA,

                          my address is in a small sliver of the district for a Congress Critter that is an entrenched D,

                          we have several Congressional districts that are carved out to protect the current occupant,
                          borders look like a piece of string was balled up and tossed on a map,
                          Last edited by lyman; 12-10-2021, 12:15.

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lyman
                            same thing here in central VA,

                            my address is in a small sliver of the district for a Congress Critter that is an entrenched D,

                            we have several Congressional districts that are carved out to protect the current occupant,
                            borders look like a piece of string was balled up and tossed on a map,
                            Many a congressman has been re-districted out of office, by drawing boundary lines that exclude his home,

                            So riddle me this: In Arkansas vs US Term Limits, the Supreme Court struck down Arkansas' term limits for members of Congress, ruling that a state cannot put any obstacles to getting on the Federal ballot that are not in the Constitution.

                            Now show me in the Constitution where it says a candidate for Congress has to live in his district!

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