How would America deal with Canada and Mexico as Russian allies ? ...

[dogtag]

Russia has over a dozen Countries bordering her and a whole bunch
are now members of NATO. I can well understand Putin's feelings
about this. He feels threatened. Russia suffered greatly from the
German invasion and as a result surrounded herself with satellite
countries post war in order to not suffer such an indignity again.
Those countries, although not exactly friends were at least not enemies.
Now they are - at least potential ones. Can't be comforting.
So how would we feel if we were bordered by potential enemies ?

[togor]

So move to Russia DT if your heart bleeds for her so. Seriously.

America (and Britain) forged bonds with Europe through shared ancestry, and the spilling of blood.

Is Mexico full of Russians? Is Russia full of Mexicans? Ditto Canada.

By posing such questions you are just regurgitating the RT propaganda that has infected weak minds on the right.

[dogtag]

Try to not be stupid Togor. It's a question. Obviously too much for you.

[lyman]

come on Comrade Dogtagovich, lets have some Vodka ,,,,


tho honestly, I would rather have a nice English Ale ,,,,

[barretcreek]

Having thought about that a few times, I'd ask Vlado 'why do your closest neighbors fear you?'. Even the Swedes are getting antsy and the Finns want to know 'how about 7.62X39 NATO?'.

[dogtag]

come on Comrade Dogtagovich, lets have some Vodka ,,,,


tho honestly, I would rather have a nice English Ale ,,,,

You're as childish as togor. Have you never heard the term "Devil's Advocate "

[dogtag]

I really hope there are people here who can appreciate the problem Putin faces
and make an argument either for or against the contents of my thread without
resorting to childish remarks as did our two moderators.

[togor]

DT it's a false equivalence pushed by Russian propagandists.

The better comparison would be if we have plans to send troops north or south. We don't so far as any of us can tell. Now if we did, and Mexico or Canada didn't want us invading, then one cannot blame them for seeking allies.

Bottom line it's not Russia's business who Europe's sovereign nations choose for friends. If Russia wants to get along, they'll have no problems.

[Allen]

So how would we feel if we were bordered by potential enemies ?

If Mexico isn't an enemy no one is.

[lyman]

Russia has over a dozen Countries bordering her and a whole bunch
are now members of NATO.

yup, and?

I can well understand Putin's feelings
about this. He feels threatened.

maybe, or maybe not, 2022 is not 1940

Russia suffered greatly from the
German invasion and as a result surrounded herself with satellite
countries post war in order to not suffer such an indignity again.

cold war tactics, when Russia was CCCP or USSR, that is no longer the case

Those countries, although not exactly friends were at least not enemies.
Now they are - at least potential ones. Can't be comforting.
So how would we feel if we were bordered by potential enemies ?

we have a different geological location,

we are bordered by Mexico and Canada,

we have never been invaded, compared to USSR, during war,

and yet we aided them (USSR) when they were,


the current Putin issues are hard to compare to the Cold War troubles, or even WW2,,

different times, mindsets, and of course, nothing goes unpublished now,, vs then,


and my comments still stand, a nice cellar temp English Ale over Stoli any day Comrade Dogtagovich

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You're as childish as togor. Have you never heard the term "Devil's Advocate "

Comrade!!!

I was raised to think for myself,

and if the USSR missiles were 1\2 as accurate as we thought they were, I would have been a crispy critter if the missiles flew during the cold war,

based on my location, (Central VA,, lots of targets here)

I learned early on not to GAF about Russia

[dryheat]

Dogtag, I've wondered the exact same thing. The part about being surrounded. If Ukraine goes NATO that's just another punch to the gut. Keeping nato out of Ukraine doesn't seem too much to ask.

[Vern Humphrey]

First of all, it's not about feelings, it's about strategic reality. I recommend reading the Melian Dialog (you can find it on the internet) to understand the difference.

NATO was created to counter an expansionistic Russia, and this is exactly the situation we face now. By standing firm, NATO may prevent further Russian expansion. By giving in, they virtually guarantee more Russin adventures.

[Mark in Ottawa]

Let us recall that Canada has never invaded the USA but that the USA has invaded Canada twice (officially): in 1775 and in 1812 and about 7 times unofficially by the Fenians between 1866 and 1871. Perhaps it is we Canadians who should be worried

[lyman]

Let us recall that Canada has never invaded the USA but that the USA has invaded Canada twice (officially): in 1775 and in 1812 and about 7 times unofficially by the Fenians between 1866 and 1871. Perhaps it is we Canadians who should be worried

yall Canadians sent us Justin Bieber,

that's practically an invasion

[dryheat]

The 'stans countries need looking after. That isn't our department.