Canadian Trucker Situation - Update of 14 Jan

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  • Mark in Ottawa
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1744

    #1

    Canadian Trucker Situation - Update of 14 Jan

    As I may have mentioned, most of the issues with the Truckers are actually in the provincial rather than the federal level and have been handled by the municipal and provincial police.

    Until a couple of days ago, the police were making every effort to handle things with very gentle hands in order to avoid a major confrontation, something that was going to prove difficult since a lot of the Truckers brought their wives and kids along. Nobody really wants to pepper spray a 5 year old girl. Basically they weaponized their kids

    Things started to change the other day when truckers blocaded the bridge between Detroit and Windsor Ontario. This bridge handles about $300 million worth of goods daily, mostly parts for the auto plants on both sides of the border. When the plants started to close, the munical authorities got a court order and told them to move or be jailed and fined. That worked but Ottawa, where I live is still tied up.

    The big event today was that the federal government activated Part II of the Emergencies Act. This Act has never been activated before and was set up about 40 years ago when the current Prime Minister's father was Prime Minister and had to deal with a terrorist situation caused by people who wanted to split the Province of Quebec off from the rest of Canada. That kind of situation had never before been contemplated and the then Prime Minister found that the only legislation that he could use was the "War Measures Act", a very powerful act that virtually turned some areas into a police state. The much more controlled Emergency Act was passed to replace the War Measures Act. Part II deals with what is called a "Public Order Emergency' and the regulations give the local police more power to handle the situation.

    All very well but they also are doing some interesting things under Part II. There is a high degree of certainty that the Truckers have been infiltrated and funded by a number of very right wing and racist organizations from the USA. The Canadian government managed to get GoFundMe to return about $10M in donations and stopped another organization from using or disbursing about $8M. To deal with this, the new regulations put strict controls on all financial organizations regarding funds from any group involved in the ongoing mess and even more interesting have instructed the insurance companies to cancel the insurance on any truck involved in any sort of illegal occupation.

    These regs and the implementation of the Act only last 30 days.

    There are some other issues that have not yet been dealt with and I am waiting to see what if anything the government will do. In particular, the written material from the leaders of the goup and some statements made to the media talked about how they wanted to take over the government by having the Governor General dismiss the current government and allow the formation of a coalition containing the unelected trucker leaders, the opposition parties and the Senate. This is probably sedition which is a pertty serious crime. It also shows that they have absolutely no clue about how a Parliamentary Democracy works.

    A final thought is that in my opinion and I suspect most other Ottawans, our police chief totally mishandled the whole incident and should be asked for his resignation
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Thanks for the update, Mark.

    In your opinion what should the chief have done different? Too lenient? Too confrontational?

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11268

      #3
      weaponize the children or try to put a face on the families affected ?

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        Originally posted by lyman
        weaponize the children or try to put a face on the families affected ?
        I vote shields.

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        • barretcreek
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 6065

          #5
          Mark, Out in the 'flyover zone' what's the sentiment? The whole idea of this protest is to inconvenience a certain segment of Canadian society. How do the people affected, in the wallet, by Trudeau's policies feel about this? If the truckers can't work the better routes and are going broke why bother working at all? Let Trudeau deliver the staples and the fuel. You (and us) may soon find the relative utility of the laptop class vs the deplorables. Need to find an article I read.

          https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ally-shrugged/
          Last edited by barretcreek; 02-14-2022, 05:22.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11268

            #6
            well they surely aren't burning down the city

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            • dryheat
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 10587

              #7
              -And never forget that unlike the Brownshirts in Black Lives Matter and Antifa, these men are laying something on the line, something real. These are working people, not professional activists, criminals, and students. -
              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by dryheat
                -And never forget that unlike the Brownshirts in Black Lives Matter and Antifa, these men are laying something on the line, something real. These are working people, not professional activists, criminals, and students. -
                "Brownshirts in BLM and Antifa"?

                Channelling Boggs now?

                Never a good idea to lose one's bearings, or a sense that there are lines that shouldn't be crossed.



                And someone hanging around Ottawa for 18 straight days isn't exactly working is he.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11268

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  "Brownshirts in BLM and Antifa"?

                  Channelling Boggs now?

                  Never a good idea to lose one's bearings, or a sense that there are lines that shouldn't be crossed.



                  And someone hanging around Ottawa for 18 straight days isn't exactly working is he.
                  but they are not breaking into businesses, looting, burning , beating people up and spraypainting everything that does not move are they?


                  and are they paid agitators? BLM and others have been known to use them (paid by the hour or event and bussed in)

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                  • Johnny P
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6258

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    I vote shields.

                    It's a photo op.

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                    • barretcreek
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 6065

                      #11
                      I think Trudeau has been told "This is the opportunity to show the little people who's boss. Don't waste it." He will come down heavy handed to make the point, as opposed to trying for a healing solution.

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                      • dryheat
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10587

                        #12
                        -Mounties said in a release early Monday that they became aware of a small organized group within the larger protest at Coutts, which led to 11 arrests.-

                        Yeah, there's always that bunch.
                        If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by barretcreek
                          I think Trudeau has been told "This is the opportunity to show the little people who's boss. Don't waste it." He will come down heavy handed to make the point, as opposed to trying for a healing solution.
                          LOL

                          I think you know what I'm getting at.

                          If not, then....some people are all for the little guy, until he gets in THEIR way.

                          Read that Ottawa PD went easy on writing parking tickets in the occupied zone but kept it business as usual for the locals. This out of "an abundance of caution for public safety" or some bleeding-heart nonsense like that. No small wonder the locals wanted their chief sacked.

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