NYPD at 'trigger-pullers' during 90-day plan to stop gun violence

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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    NYPD at 'trigger-pullers' during 90-day plan to stop gun violence

    NYPD takes aim at 'trigger-pullers' during 90-day plan to stop gun violence as shootings soar 30 percent in crime-ridden city

    The NYPD is cracking down on 'trigger-pullers' with a 90-day '2022 Crime Plan' aiming to cut down on crime spikes in all categories, particularly gun violence

    The first priority, according to a internal memo, is to reduce the record number of shootings by focusing on neighborhoods where gun crime is most prevalent

    Criminals who have been involved in recent or multiple gun-related incidents will be added to a list so all units are aware of frequent offenders

    Precincts that had more than 10 shooting incidents in 2021 will be tasked with drawing up an action plan to reduce gun violence

    Additional patrols will be 'heavily directed' and 'saturated' in areas that have historically seen more instances of violent crime

    The plan includes a 'Midtown initiative,' to 'reduce crime and disorder' in the tourist-heavy area, and plans to focus more heavily on subways

    Year-to-date, there have been 118 shootings in NYC, up by 30 percent

    Overall crime having increased 41.65 percent, robbery up nearly 35 percent, and violent felonies up 13.3 percent through February 6 from the same time last year

    SOME OTHER CITY COMPARISONS!

    According to the FBI, in TULSA!... Older stats and crime has risen there since!
    African-Americans accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 41.1%, and "Other" 3.0% in cases where the race was known. Among homicide victims in 2019 where the race was known, 54.7% were black or African-American, 42.3% were white, and 3.1% were of other races.

    And below I posted some ones post made on a voice of the people post about the crimes in cities trying to make other cities look worse then NY! But hiding the fact that the crime in those cities are also the result of race. I haven't checked out the other cities on the list, but chances are similar according to a race.

    Here is that post..

    "Crime ridden city." A little math - NYC's population: 8.82 million. US population: 330 million. Therefore NYC's population is 2.67% of the country. NYC murders 2020: 462. US murders 2020: 21,570. Therefore 2.14% of US murders happened in NYC. That means that New Yorkers committed 20% fewer murders than their "fair share" according to population size. This gels with the official FBI stats which show that NYC is in the bottom 20% of large US cities for crime rate.
    There are so many Republican cities with at least double or triple the murder rate of NYC. Examples: Fairbanks, Anchorage, Wasilla, Kokomo, Jonesboro, Rapid City, Amarillo, Lubbock, Beaumont, OK City, Tulsa, Miami, Colorado Springs, Fort Worth, Jacksonville etc. The list is endless. All of those cities have seen HUGE spikes in crime over the last few years. It's just a shame conservatives don't have the same outrage about the situation in their own towns and cities.

    Last edited by rayg; 02-15-2022, 11:21.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Ray if you turn this into a "blame crime on this/that race" thread I will shut it down. It's more complicated than that, as you know from your days in law enforcement.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11269

      #3
      stats are stats, and generally not recasts, taking the law to those that do the crime is a good thing, but will probably be perceived as something else, and perception matters more

      however, in reading what was posted, sounds like someone in the higher ranks has gone corporate,

      action plans , buzz word I hoped to never hear again,


      also

      Criminals who have been involved in recent or multiple gun-related incidents will be added to a list so all units are aware of frequent offenders

      involved? if so, why not prosecuted? or investigated?

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #4
        Togor what are you afraid of? No different then when I was in LE...It was who was the blame for the crime...How is that more complicated ?
        Last edited by rayg; 02-15-2022, 08:46.

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        • Art
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Dec 2009
          • 9256

          #5
          A step in the right direction.

          Again, "equity politics." The number of arrests by race, ethnicity, gender, whatever must be exactly the same and bonding, parole ect equal regardless of the circumstances of the crime is a bad idea. Go where the problem is.

          The Guilliani, Bloomberg plan which was spectacularly successful, was very aggressive policing, sometimes a bit too aggressive maybe, in high crime areas. Those areas do not include the Upper East Side, Forrest Hills, or even Bensonhurst , which deals with crime of a different type.

          The anti crime guys fanned out in Bed Stuy, the South Bronx, certain areas of Harlem, etc and engaged along with community engagement with shopkeepers and law abiding folks, a very confrontational attitude with criminals down to the lowest level. Now if you're selling "loosies" you know the cops may stop by and if you're packing that gun is gone and your ride just got rougher. This was extremely effective. Bad guys started leaving their guns at home more.
          This literally kept guns off the street, not out of NYC but off the street. Those same guns are back on the street. None of the new approach will matter if the bad guys aren't "spanked" by the DA and the courts. Apparently the DA, and the NY Legislature have little interest in cooperating.

          To the new left in this country this isn't equitable,

          Equal treatment where a person is judged by a theoretically equal standard according to their actions is a high asperation that has been completely ditched in a whole lot of this country. We are heading for total and complete anarchy if we don't end this madness and soon.

          Bill Mahr, in a monologue I can no longer get, asked why the only thing the US can do with precision is warfare.
          Last edited by Art; 02-15-2022, 09:16.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Originally posted by rayg
            Togor what are you afraid of? No different then when I was in LE...It was who was the blame for the crime...How is that more complicated ?
            The problems arise if you start/stop at skin color. You know damn well what I'm talking about.

            Discuss the complexities all you want otherwise....this place needs the activity.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Good points, Art. I think some of the reaction to Floyd was an overreaction. But then NYC cops like Minneapolis cops have a wicked strong union culture that can hold off reform. So the pressure builds and builds and then when it gives it goes too far.

              Policing like teaching gets messy and some union protections can be justified. But there's a ratcheting effect to contracts, always more protections in the next contract, never less, even when less makes more sense.

              Read a report recently about how bad behavior is up pretty much everywhere. Pedestrians hit by cars, sh*theads on airline flights. A reminder that police can't fix everything that goes wrong, or prevent it.

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              • rayg
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7444

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                The problems arise if you start/stop at skin color. You know damn well what I'm talking about.

                Discuss the complexities all you want otherwise....this place needs the activity.
                I don't think I mentioned any thing about skin color did I!

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11269

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Good points, Art. I think some of the reaction to Floyd was an overreaction. But then NYC cops like Minneapolis cops have a wicked strong union culture that can hold off reform. So the pressure builds and builds and then when it gives it goes too far.

                  Policing like teaching gets messy and some union protections can be justified. But there's a ratcheting effect to contracts, always more protections in the next contract, never less, even when less makes more sense.

                  Read a report recently about how bad behavior is up pretty much everywhere. Pedestrians hit by cars, sh*theads on airline flights. A reminder that police can't fix everything that goes wrong, or prevent it.


                  not the Police job or function to fix,,
                  prevention is part of it but honestly a small part

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                  • dryheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10587

                    #10
                    We have a lot of pedestrians hit by cars...at 1:30 in the morning on the west side. Drunks running over other drunks.
                    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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