at this point

[one shot]

Should we get involved directly meaning , put a whoop azz on putin or should we set by and watch .

[lyman]

Should we get involved directly meaning , put a whoop azz on putin or should we set by and watch .

nato,

not us, at least not directly,

[togor]

Should we get involved directly meaning , put a whoop azz on putin or should we set by and watch .

It's moving slowly in that direction.

[lyman]

It's moving slowly in that direction.

not an answer

[one shot]

I think NATO needs to take putin on inside of the Ukraine , but be ready for Russia to attack NATO countries directly with tactical nukes . Sweden and Finland need to join NATO and Ukraine should have been in years ago . The Russians have a supply problem inside of Ukraine cutting off supply and the serpent will die .

[lyman]

Russia is or has saber rattled at the Swedes and Finns recently, but that will go nowhere,

another case of biting off more than you can chew