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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    If it doesn't make sense, it's usually not true.

    Says Judge Judy. Makes me wonder why Putin would prefer the US increase their defense spending by 20%. It makes me wonder why Putin would be for a more aggressive US foreign policy. It makes me wonder why Putin would be for NATO members to increase their contributions to the organization. It makes me wonder why Putin liked sanctions on his Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

    My conclusion is there is no evidence the National/Socialist/Democrat party has any sense, common or otherwise.

    JMHO
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    US foreign policy became considerably less aggressive towards traditional adversaries and more aggressive towards traditional allies in the 2017-2020 period. We were all there to see it so there's no point in arguing about it. Given where things are now, it does not seem to have bought us much. But hey, something different to try.



    The simple argument for why Putin moved when he did is he saw the window shrinking with time. That's the #1 reason people take risks TODAY--that the odds TOMORROW will be worse.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11268

      #3
      Originally posted by togor
      US foreign policy became considerably less aggressive towards traditional adversaries and more aggressive towards traditional allies in the 2017-2020 period. We were all there to see it so there's no point in arguing about it. Given where things are now, it does not seem to have bought us much. But hey, something different to try.



      The simple argument for why Putin moved when he did is he saw the window shrinking with time. That's the #1 reason people take risks TODAY--that the odds TOMORROW will be worse.
      your TDS is still showing,

      if you recall, Trump wanted NATO and the EU to stop using us (the US) as an ATM and start taking care of themselves,

      now that the media etc have rid themselves of Trump,, Biden has turned the ATM back on, and Putin thought that things would be a push over like they were Pre Trump,

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #4
        Originally posted by lyman
        your TDS is still showing,

        if you recall, Trump wanted NATO and the EU to stop using us (the US) as an ATM and start taking care of themselves,

        now that the media etc have rid themselves of Trump,, Biden has turned the ATM back on, and Putin thought that things would be a push over like they were Pre Trump,
        Togor.....
        As said many times before.. Your so numerous anti Trump posts are getting really old! We get it!..you hated Trump!..But it's time to more on! Ray
        Last edited by rayg; 03-22-2022, 04:40.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by rayg
          Togor.....
          As said many times before.. Your so numerous anti Trump posts are getting really old! We get it!..you hated Trump!..But it's time to more on! Ray
          Hey....

          RED spins some pessimistic fantasy to lower everyone's spirits down to his level. Per his posts nuclear war is inevitable and we're all gonna die very soon.

          If someone else wants to push back against that, feel free. Please, beat me to the next one.

          BTW, I did not mention any politicians in my post did I? I just stated facts of which we are all aware and posted a photo that captures those years very well. You can take shots at the messenger if you want but the message is true.

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #6
            Originally posted by togor
            Hey....

            RED spins some pessimistic fantasy to lower everyone's spirits down to his level. Per his posts nuclear war is inevitable and we're all gonna die very soon.

            If someone else wants to push back against that, feel free. Please, beat me to the next one.

            BTW, I did not mention any politicians in my post did I? I just stated facts of which we are all aware and posted a photo that captures those years very well. You can take shots at the messenger if you want but the message is true.
            Gee, Wow! Not by name but by year...Lol

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            • RED
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11689

              #7
              There he goes again using the word FACT while he is spouting propaganda. I have never said nuclear war is inevitable, What I do believe is Putin will use tactical nukes in Ukraine and NATO will not respond. After Ukraine there will be more countries taken over until Putin has the Soviet Union back or is overthrown.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by rayg
                Gee, Wow! Not by name but by year...Lol
                I will probably never understand why people vote for someone only to be in a major hurry to forget their term ASAP once out of office. That seems like an admission of a giant-ass mistake.

                But the USA has done a good job of making this about Putin versus any other politician, so let's stick with that, and hope the folks running the show in DC make good decisions.

                Russian history not my thing, but has there EVER been a period where Moscow governed wisely? No wonder all these enclaves want to break free. Those blaming the west COMPLETELY miss that simple point: the Kremlin sucks, period. I think Judge Judy would agree.
                Last edited by togor; 03-22-2022, 08:20.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11268

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Hey....

                  RED spins some pessimistic fantasy to lower everyone's spirits down to his level. Per his posts nuclear war is inevitable and we're all gonna die very soon.

                  If someone else wants to push back against that, feel free. Please, beat me to the next one.

                  BTW, I did not mention any politicians in my post did I? I just stated facts of which we are all aware and posted a photo that captures those years very well. You can take shots at the messenger if you want but the message is true.
                  only in your mind,

                  you posted a pic with no caption , so there is no context, and if you think that one pic captures those years, then you may be right, Trump may have told Merkel etc to pay up,,



                  kinda odd for you to say RED is bringing folks down,, you have been doing that all along,, for years now

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