Obamacare was supposed to save a lot of money, right?

[RED]

Between 2010 and 2018 (pre COVID) healthcare spending increased from $8,380 per capita to $11,040 that is about a 30% increase instead of the promised huge cut. Is ithat an example of pandering?

Characteristic Expenditure per capita in U.S. dollars
2020 12,530
2019 11,462
2018 11,040
2017 10,611
2016 10,242
2015 9,873
2014 9,436
2013 9,045
2012 8,875
2011 8,598
2010 8,380

[Roadkingtrax]

That's what happens when you presume uninsured Americans have a baseline of health that is too high.

The health care industrial complex needs to eat ya' know? Inflation and all.

[togor]

Obamacare was intended to get more people health care coverage. To RED this is a bad thing. His MAGA world is full of poor people with crappy jobs at low wages, chronic untreated health problems, and no sense that anyone in government gives a crap.

[lyman]

That's what happens when you presume uninsured Americans have a baseline of health that is too high.

The health care industrial complex needs to eat ya' know? Inflation and all.

as much as I hate to say it, our health care system really needs an overhaul,

Obamacare was intended to get more people health care coverage. To RED this is a bad thing. His MAGA world is full of poor people with crappy jobs at low wages, chronic untreated health problems, and no sense that anyone in government gives a crap.

trolling,,

[RED]

RKT - Double Talk, meaningless gibberish

Togor- More Pig Latin. Does your mother know you are gay? Yes or no?

[Roadkingtrax]

RKT - Double Talk, meaningless gibberish

Togor- More Pig Latin. Does your mother know you are gay? Yes or no?

No, it's reality.

Things get more expensive, and health care is a cash cow of the country. You're simply trolling to ease your inescapable misery.

[togor]

Lyman: you need a new word.

RED: here's one for you. If taxpayer dollars for health care are to be rationed, wouldn't it be better to spend them on the young instead of retirees who have had their innings?

Because Obamacare allowed more people to have health care. So....not Medicare recipients.

This also gets into the question of what I think would be better as a taxpayer....I look at how much Medicare tax is taken out of my check. Don't I get a say in how that should be allocated?

See here you are enjoying socialized medicine, complaining that other people are apparently having money spent on their health care.

[Allen]

If you can't afford dog food you don't get a dog.

Likewise, if you can't afford health insurance you don't populate the world with a house full of kids for others to provide for.

[RED]

Lyman: you need a new word.


RED: here's one for you. If taxpayer dollars for health care are to be rationed, wouldn't it be better to spend them on the young instead of retirees who have had their innings?

Because Obamacare allowed more people to have health care. So....not Medicare recipients.

This also gets into the question of what I think would be better as a taxpayer....I look at how much Medicare tax is taken out of my check. Don't I get a say in how that should be allocated?

See here you are enjoying socialized medicine, complaining that other people are apparently having money spent on their health care.

That is exactly what you would love. Euthanize all seniors over 70 and give their Social Security/Medicare funds to any illegal migrant that would vote for a Socialist dictator.

That and other distasteful and immoral actions have made people in the US have more disdain for Biden than the Russian people have for Putin.

[Roadkingtrax]

If you can't afford dog food you don't get a dog.

Likewise, if you can't afford health insurance you don't populate the world with a house full of kids for others to provide for.

What are you even talking about?

If you can't run a mile, they should eliminate Medicare recipients too?

[togor]

That is exactly what you would love. Euthanize all seniors over 70 and give their Social Security/Medicare funds to any illegal migrant that would vote for a Socialist dictator.

That and other distasteful and immoral actions have made people in the US have more disdain for Biden than the Russian people have for Putin.

You are the one arguing for spending reductions on health care. Allen is the one saying kids should be left off the list to punish their parents.

Is this what you guys mean by MAGA?

Not even Bannon and Miller, those dark princes of the movement, would go as far as you two. How ironic it would be to live long enough to need assistance from the kinds of low-paid workers you despise, eh?

[lyman]

Lyman: you need a new word.

RED: here's one for you. If taxpayer dollars for health care are to be rationed, wouldn't it be better to spend them on the young instead of retirees who have had their innings?

Because Obamacare allowed more people to have health care. So....not Medicare recipients.

This also gets into the question of what I think would be better as a taxpayer....I look at how much Medicare tax is taken out of my check. Don't I get a say in how that should be allocated?

See here you are enjoying socialized medicine, complaining that other people are apparently having money spent on their health care.

no,, you need to read what you post,


keep this civil please,

[RED]

I have a problem when a bureaucratic inefficient, typically incompetent government wastes 80%+ of the money supposedly spent on healthcare.

Name ONE government department that has ever, EVER, been efficient and stayed on budget.

Spending billions more on Obamacare has never helped a hard working American with a job and car insurance. Maybe some illegal criminals that voted for Obama, but not one real member of the working class, that pays for the criminals luxury health care with their wasted tax dollars.

Yeah!!! Lets spend a few more billions so women can be transed to a man and vice versa.

I have a lady friend that had measles when she was pregnant in 1969. Her son weighed under 2lbs and had serious birth defects including no hearing in one ear and 20% in the other. One leg is 3 inches shorter than the other and he has a crooked back. Now he is 54 years old and last year he got a stimulus check for $1,400. That is the only money he has ever gotten in his entire life from the government. He and his disabled mother live on $1,800 SS benefits. No medical insurance for him or any other benefits. His mother worked a year in her 70?s to pay for a $4,000 hearing aid.

A criminal murderer and rapist can break the law and swim the Rio Grand and get more government benefits than he does.

Fook you.

[togor]

Well that spun out of control predictably.