The sinking of the US Navy

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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    The sinking of the US Navy

    At this the most dangerous time since the Cuban Missile Crisis while the PRC Navy is expanding faster than ever, Biden is cutting our Navy back. Let?s go Brandon!
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Originally posted by RED
    At this the most dangerous time since the Cuban Missile Crisis while the PRC Navy is expanding faster than ever, Biden is cutting our Navy back. Let?s go Brandon!
    RED could have stated the Navy is getting a budget increase under Biden but no, being the propagandist that he is, he spins it.

    https://www.defenseone.com/policy/20...equest/363720/

    Have you seen how many Russian tank hulls are getting brewed up in Ukraine? Ships are like tanks on the water. Easy pickings for the right missile. If the PRC wants to build targets, let them.
    Last edited by togor; 04-08-2022, 01:19. Reason: Spelling

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    • RED
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11689

      #3
      More Socialist propaganda? a 5% increase when inflation is 8% is a cut. The US will build 9 ships but will decommission 24 and that is a cut.
      Quote from your link:

      Navy Gets Budget Bump But Fleet Would Shrink Under Biden Request

      Twist and turn, lie and burn
      Last edited by RED; 04-08-2022, 01:48.

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        Will the future see a USS Biden ? The ship would sink while in dry dock.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by RED
          More Socialist propaganda? a 5% increase when inflation is 8% is a cut. The US will build 9 ships but will decommission 24 and that is a cut.
          Quote from your link:

          Navy Gets Budget Bump But Fleet Would Shrink Under Biden Request

          Twist and turn, lie and burn
          Why float and man boats without a mission? The Navy wants quality over quantity. If you think they're wrong, write them a strongly-worded letter!

          Read this link below and understand what is happening to naval warfare, instead of ranting about how things aren't like they were in the Good Old Days.

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #6
            Quote from your link:

            After the Cold War ended, the US Navy rosed to the top rank of naval?

            Rosed defined:


            rose1
            /rōz/
            verbLITERARY
            past tense: rosed; past participle: rosed
            make rosy.
            "a warm flush now rosed her hitherto blue cheeks"

            That writer probably doesn?t know the definition of pander either.

            If quantity doesn?t matter why is China building more, faster, than ever before and what is wrong in quality in quantity? Even FDR pushed for upping the quality and quantity of our military in 1939 when we were on the brink of war.

            Today Biden is SHRINKING (your link) all our military branches on the brink of war.

            Top 10 Largest Navies in the World (by total number of warships and submarines - 2020):
            China - 777
            Russia - 603
            North Korea - 492
            United States - 490

            Stupid gone to seed.
            Last edited by RED; 04-08-2022, 10:46.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              So it's an international view, with typos. That's all you got from it?

              If the Chinese develop hypersonic anti-ship missiles that can strike our carrier groups before the carriers get within striking range themselves, then what is the mission for those ships? And even if it takes 100 missiles to knock a CVN out of action, there isn't a navy in this world that would call that a bad trade.

              The Navy has a problem. A larger surface fleet does not appear to be the answer.

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #8
                Wow that makes China really stupid because they are building boats by the dozens.

                Carriers were declared obsolete when China deployed the Silkworm Cruise Missile in the early 80s.
                Last edited by RED; 04-09-2022, 02:41.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  RED

                  Read this one. Typed in the USA. Hopefully you begin to see the problem facing the Navy.

                  Sandboxx News makes the complex approachable. Bridging the gap between academic expertise and practical boots-on-the-ground experience, we remove the mystery from conflict and highlight the importance of military service and deterrence-reinforcing technology.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11268

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    RED

                    Read this one. Typed in the USA. Hopefully you begin to see the problem facing the Navy.

                    https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/fighter...-21st-century/
                    shouldn't you be taking care of the spammer new members?

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                    • RED
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11689

                      #11
                      Give me a break. Our carriers can reach Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, and every place bordered by a ocean or large sea but can?t reach China?????????

                      How about the small Boxer sized carriers that carry 35 USMC F-35s. And yes the US has already developed a anti hydra sonic missile defense.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        shouldn't you be taking care of the spammer new members?
                        Completely off topic but you don't care. BTW have banned a couple in the last few days.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RED
                          Give me a break. Our carriers can reach Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, and every place bordered by a ocean or large sea but can?t reach China?????????

                          How about the small Boxer sized carriers that carry 35 USMC F-35s. And yes the US has already developed a anti hydra sonic missile defense.
                          It's not sailing range, it's striking distance. Striking distance has mattered in naval warfare since the first cannon were put aboard ships. They taught you this when you were in so you know EXACTLY what I am talking about!

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11268

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Completely off topic but you don't care. BTW have banned a couple in the last few days.
                            there are 30 more, and I cleaned up a few you missed that posted,


                            time for you to start moderating, get to it,

                            and I am sure RED won't mind me disturbing his thread,, since it points out your inadequacies,

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              One interesting thing about carriers is, they can move. Not only that, there are other ships that can hit China from anyplace on earth. They have ICBMs.

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