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  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #1

    The First Amendment

    O'Bammy announced yesterday that the 1st Amendment is not applicable to social media like twitter and face book! He wants MORE censoring of all social media as if there is not enough now! So, if you disagree with someone or something the democrats are doing, you will be taken down! Eventually this will include ALL newspapers too? What about the person who stands on a street corner and gives his opinion?
    The 1st Amendment is basically dead today because of the new 'WOKE' democrats!
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    What favors of late has the First Amendment done you? Your posts are all over the map, full of anger and distortions. I bet if you unplugged for a bit you'd go back to being your old self. Just saying.

    Fair bet that if the founders traveled forward in time and saw a nation of rage junkies staring at glass screens, they would think long and hard.

    In theory a sense of individual responsibility should lead people to turn off the computer, TV, or stop sticking the needle into their arm. But the addictions are too powerful.

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    • rayg
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7444

      #3
      Like the pot calling the kettle black! Lol

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        Originally posted by rayg
        Like the pot calling the kettle black! Lol
        Somebody has been looking in the mirror.

        And that somebody doesn't understand that the time to defend your rights is BEFORE they're all gone.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
          Somebody has been looking in the mirror.

          And that somebody doesn't understand that the time to defend your rights is BEFORE they're all gone.
          This from a guy who cheers the loss of a woman's right to choose.

          Your hypocrisy is matched only by your passive-agressiveness.

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          • dogtag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 14985

            #6
            What the democrats have to say about the first amendment is: SHUT UP

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              And you notice the comment from the guy who supports infanticide.

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #8
                Women have a choice. Sex or not is that choice. Personally I think if women want to be totally equal to men we could end all differences. If a woman wants to play professional basketball try out for the Lakers if you are 6ft 10 in. and can dunk a basketball or consistently hit 3 pointers they can play pro.

                Or if a woman can hit .300 or pitch with 2.0 ERA, fine the Yankees or Dodgers will sign her up.

                Let em sign up for the Seals or the USMC, if they can stand the training that is fine.

                Make the separate but equal nonsense go away. No mens club, no Girl Scouts, no separate restrooms, no women and men prisons, and make girls and boys shower together in high school.

                That is equality.
                Last edited by RED; 04-23-2022, 12:39.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  And you notice the comment from the guy who supports infanticide.
                  More passive aggressive word games. Afraid?

                  A right is a right. Your religion not withstanding.

                  True or false--

                  People taking away rights always have some reason.

                  Eliminating guns would save lives too.

                  But you oppose that so I call BS on you wanting to save lives.

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                  Originally posted by RED
                  Women have a choice. Sex or not is that choice. Personally I think if women want to be totally equal to men we could end all differences. If a woman wants to play professional basketball try out for the Lakers if you are 6ft 10 in. and can dunk a basketball or consistently hit 3 pointers they can play pro.

                  Or if a woman can hit .300 or pitch with 2.0 ERA, fine the Yankees or Dodgers will sign her up.

                  Let em sign up for the Seals or the USMC, if they can stand the training that is fine.

                  Make the separate but equal nonsense go away. No mens club, no Girl Scouts, no separate restrooms, no women and men prisons, and make girls and boys shower together in high school.

                  That is equality.
                  This is why women hate guys like you running the country. You veer from distortion to bullsh*t.

                  Back to the OP.

                  Does your free speech right override my right to private property?

                  What's the right answer?

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                  • Major Tom
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6181

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor

                    Eliminating guns would save lives too.









                    Does your free speech right override my right to private property?

                    What's the right answer?
                    What does private property have to do with free speech? Why do democrats want to censor free speech? What are they afraid of?
                    And, how will eliminating firearm ownership save lives? An honest law abiding gun owner does not roam the streets to shoot someone! An honest law abiding gun owner can protect themselves, family and property with a firearm!
                    As for me ranting and raving on jouster; I learned that from togor, the pillar of decency! Hogwash!

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Major Tom
                      What does private property have to do with free speech? Why do democrats want to censor free speech? What are they afraid of?
                      And, how will eliminating firearm ownership save lives? An honest law abiding gun owner does not roam the streets to shoot someone! An honest law abiding gun owner can protect themselves, family and property with a firearm!
                      As for me ranting and raving on jouster; I learned that from togor, the pillar of decency! Hogwash!
                      It's everything!

                      Social Media is private property. They try to monetize speech. That means you post, read, they make money. By selling adds. Their algorithms are designed to push what "sells".

                      However there are limits to what the owners, the workers, the public is willing to endure.

                      Some people are determined to push those limits, and when they get blowback, they whine about free speech.

                      But their speech on Social Media was never free--it was part of a deal with social media companies--you post, watch the stupid ads we sell, and read other posts that our AI says will get you juiced. Or skip the ads and send us money.

                      But in all cases, your speech is carried on THEIR private property. It's theirs, not yours. If they don't want racist hateful crap on their system, because it hurts their business model, then that's their decision to make.

                      If they dump someone, that person can still write letters to the editor, Congressman, give speeches in front of the Courthouse, etc., same as ever.


                      Added:

                      There are SM sites that boast that they allow hateful, racist crap on them. And it finds them! But.....it turns out that these companies don't break out to big followings, because apparently the big boys are right, that this content turns people off.

                      So the market is dealing with the wingnuts and their extremism pretty well. Which is why they want laws changed to force business to carry their crap.
                      Last edited by togor; 04-24-2022, 06:28.

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                      • barretcreek
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 6065

                        #12
                        They have created The Commons by their monopolistic actions.

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                        • kj47
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 699

                          #13
                          All they want to do is "level" the playing field is all.

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Major Tom
                            What does private property have to do with free speech? Why do democrats want to censor free speech? What are they afraid of?
                            And, how will eliminating firearm ownership save lives? An honest law abiding gun owner does not roam the streets to shoot someone! An honest law abiding gun owner can protect themselves, family and property with a firearm!
                            As for me ranting and raving on jouster; I learned that from togor, the pillar of decency! Hogwash!
                            At least you're not ranting and raving in favor of infanticide.

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