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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    At some future date the world will run out of everything ...

    And no doubt long before the end of its five billion year lifespan.
    We can't suck oil out of the ground for ever. There has to come
    a point where the gauge reads empty. Same goes for gas and coal,
    These are the things that keep us warm and our machines turning,
    so what happens then ? If we haven't figured out nuclear fusion
    by then, we'll be in trouble. Will everyone pack up and leave for warmer
    climes ? That scenario is probably a long way off, but another threat
    is much closer. Apart from water shortages, the threat of an increasing
    population outstripping the ability of the food producers to feed them.
    There's already a study that forecasts exactly that in as little as three
    decades. What to do about that ? Well, wars have a habit of reducing
    populations but also have a bad effect on food producers. No help there.
    Today's world is in a sh!t state with no signs of things getting better
    anytime soon, if ever - but, be glad you live now and not later because
    things are going to get gradually worse it seems, unless of course Aliens
    - the UFO type - come and save us - hopefully not eat us.
    Happy thoughts huh ?
  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #2
    Thomas Malthus made the same predictions in 1798.

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10583

      #3
      A few decades ago I was reaching down into the local gulf waters to pick up some oysters. I noticed that about 4" or so down into the sand (under the water) the sand was oily. That told me that oil is being formed every day--all the time. Things still die and decompose. It didn't end with the dinosaurs.

      There could be a balance of people vs natural resources but no, not all people and countries are on board. If they were there would be no flooding our borders. They would stay put, better themselves where they live (like we have) and curb their population to what they could support and feed.

      Famines, plagues, and war are natural forms of population control even mentioned in the Bible. Unfortunately it has to come to this at times.

      Where I live, you could once go outside most any time during daylight hours and hear the distant sound of a Johnny popper. Other makes of tractors were used too but the sound of the old John Deere's were distinctive and noticed. Most everyone farmed then. Now, there's almost none, all farms being replaced by subdivisions.

      More and more people to feed and far fewer farms to produce food. Along with this was the gov't interference of banning DDT and other insecticides that worked.

      Now, we buy most of our crop produced food from countries like Brazil and Argentina that can charge most anything they desire and use U.S banned insecticides to assure they have a good supply.
      Last edited by Allen; 04-24-2022, 12:21.

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      • one shot
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2021
        • 534

        #4
        I've done so much with so little for so long I'm prepared for anything .

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        • dogtag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 14985

          #5
          Originally posted by one shot
          I've done so much with so little for so long I'm prepared for anything .
          I'm sure the same can be said for those here, but 99.99% of people are not here.

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          • Johnny P
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 6260

            #6
            In 1909 the Titusville Herald (Titusville, PA) predicted that we had enough oil for the next 25 to 30 years. In 1919 the Oil & Gas News predicted we would have enough oil for the next 2 to 5 years and then production would begin to decline.

            When they open the spigot and get nothing we will know for sure that the end has been reached.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Originally posted by Allen
              A few decades ago I was reaching down into the local gulf waters to pick up some oysters. I noticed that about 4" or so down into the sand (under the water) the sand was oily. That told me that oil is being formed every day--all the time. Things still die and decompose. It didn't end with the dinosaurs.
              ...
              This is not how oil works.

              In fact what happened is that after those early forests sank deep underground to start the process of forming coal and petroleum, microbes in the biosphere developed the ability to break down cellulose. Once those microbes came into being that was it for forming these massive carbon deposits.

              Any hydrocarbons released into the environment are broken down and never get a chance to do fossilized deposits
              Last edited by togor; 04-24-2022, 01:02.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                Decomposition still takes place, of course, but it's a lengthy process,
                whereas pumping oil and burning it is a fairly fast process.
                Consuming faster than replacing is a decidedly losing proposition.

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10583

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dogtag
                  Decomposition still takes place, of course, but it's a lengthy process,
                  whereas pumping oil and burning it is a fairly fast process.
                  Consuming faster than replacing is a decidedly losing proposition.
                  I'm sure of that, even with the millions of years of decomposition between the dino's and now, that's why I stated a balance of people vs resources. Oil, food, land, solitude, independence, happiness, air quality, etc, etc would all be in ample supply if we had fewer consumers. Most items could re-supply, re-generate if their was a balance.

                  Instead, you can fly over China and many other countries, throw a brick out the window and kill 12 people at once. Time to hit the brakes.

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                  • Major Tom
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6181

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    This is not how oil works.

                    In fact what happened is that after those early forests sank deep underground to start the process of forming coal and petroleum, microbes in the biosphere developed the ability to break down cellulose. Once those microbes came into being that was it for forming these massive carbon deposits.

                    Any hydrocarbons released into the environment are broken down and never get a chance to do fossilized deposits
                    So says our astute science scholar. Must be related to Saint Fauci!

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #11
                      -Petroleum. Alaska's proved crude oil reserves—about 2.7 billion barrels at the beginning of 2020—were the fifth-largest of any state. ...-

                      Alaska is fifth. Seems there is a lot of oil in the US. It doesn't evaporate or go stale so maybe eventually we get to use it. Of course that is just the numbers of potential maybe some of it is tougher to get out of the ground.

                      If we sucked all of the oil out of the earth would the planet collapse?
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • Allen
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10583

                        #12
                        I heard it said from the time I was a kid that the U.S. had huge oil deposits, possibly more than the Saudi's. Some or most of it was in shale though and would be costly to extract it. That's where the fracking came in.

                        The democrats always dismissed such information and anything else they don't want to hear as misinformation. The news media kept this quiet throughout the years.

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