If even the dems are afraid of title 42

[dryheat]

Some are afraid that it won't be good for them come election time. Everyone knows what a disaster lifting it will be. It's already awful and it can get even crazier if that's imaginable.
I saw where Mexico is a "failed state". The cartels pretty much run it. Yeah, it sucks to live there but it will suck to live here next. If there was ever a reason to clamp down on Bidens administration it's now. The politicians are all getting on board with protesting its lifting it even if they don't really believe. We had one of ours abruptly switch to keeping it in place which got a lot of attention. The wrong kind. Kind of a desperate act, but it's a little late now. And never the less they will continue to poor in by the thousands. We are required to let people walk into our country because its in the bible somewhere.

[Vern Humphrey]

It must be in our bible only -- no other country allows that that I'm aware of.

[togor]

The issue is, for Christians, that it's hard to go to the border and tell these people who fit the part of weary, downtrodden travelers, that screw the Testaments, they have to eff off. The scriptures written at a time and in a place where firm national borders were not a thing.

Some citizens pull it off, but it's in spite of their Christian beliefs, not because of them. But the numbers are what they are. And it's worth remembering that business interests WANT THEM HERE, because they provide labor and consume goods and services. In short they grow local economies, often rural, and help fill cash register drawers.

That said the whole thing is dishonest and for that reason I dislike it.

[dryheat]

They grow local economies with money that was taken out of "our" pockets and given to them by our government. In case you missed my subtle sarcasm I don't depend on the bible for all my decisions and our government certainly shouldn't. Stimulating our countries economy by attracting the afore mentioned lemmings seems a bad idea. [sarcasam] Maybe we need to call an exterminator.

[togor]

They grow local economies with money that was taken out of "our" pockets and given to them by our government. In case you missed my subtle sarcasm I don't depend on the bible for all my decisions and our government certainly shouldn't. Stimulating our countries economy by attracting the afore mentioned lemmings seems a bad idea. [sarcasam] Maybe we need to call an exterminator.

If that is true, blame your governor. But they also pay taxes, when they have SS and Medicare withheld from their paychecks on those fake SSNs. And state sales or income taxes. Even cash only day labor pays sales tax.

AS A GROUP they do pull their weight, even as some Americans cash in on the immigration, and others feel the cost. But then this is America. Pretty much everything works for some people here and against some people. Immigration is NO DIFFERENT. Again, let us be honest with ourselves about it at long last OK?

[dryheat]

Absolutely. There is so much greed these days. Who cares what happens after I'm gone as long as I make as much money as I can while I'm here. Kind of like the cynical guy I worked with who said, about climate change (before it was called that), screw the environment, let's just use it up.

[Vern Humphrey]

They grow local economies with money that was taken out of "our" pockets and given to them by our government. In case you missed my subtle sarcasm I don't depend on the bible for all my decisions and our government certainly shouldn't. Stimulating our countries economy by attracting the afore mentioned lemmings seems a bad idea. [sarcasam] Maybe we need to call an exterminator.

They are a net loss -- they cost more than they contribute. I invite anyone who cares to prove differently.

[bruce]

Re: Immigration. Legal or illegal, people are people. A nation that has not got at least a stable population and especially a nation that has a declining population comprised of increasingly aged people is a nation that will not long endure. This is true of Russia, China, Japan, etc. And, it is true of America. For quite some while US population has been stable or growing only because of people coming into our country. Whatever else one might say about immigration, and there is much that can and needs to be said, it is a fact that America needs at least a stable and better a growing population if it is to be economically competitive with other significant nation states which together drive international markets. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[dryheat]

If all the significant nations are losing population aren't we all on an even keel? I liked it better when there were fewer people. If we are sliding towards evaporation then it's just what I thought; the nice countries disappear and the losers take over. I have never wanted to live in India or Mexico but I guess it ends up I will. Hey, I understand, a little immigration is a good. Not ten thousand S. Americans a month. That's the out of control part that we seem to be paralysed to do anything about. Not only S A but people all over the world know that Mexico is the unlocked back door to the U.S. So in the short term we make up a fake excuse to keep title 42 to prevent total chaos in thirty days. This is no way to run a big ship.

[Vern Humphrey]

Re: Immigration. Legal or illegal, people are people. A nation that has not got at least a stable population and especially a nation that has a declining population comprised of increasingly aged people is a nation that will not long endure. This is true of Russia, China, Japan, etc. And, it is true of America. For quite some while US population has been stable or growing only because of people coming into our country. Whatever else one might say about immigration, and there is much that can and needs to be said, it is a fact that America needs at least a stable and better a growing population if it is to be economically competitive with other significant nation states which together drive international markets. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

You're begging the question, asking us to accept that unlimited illegal immigration makes things better. It doesn't. It only increases the burden on an already over-burdened society.

"My son, if I, Haifiz thy father
Take hold of thy knees in my pain
Demanding thy name on stamped paper
For one day or one hour, refrain

Are the links of thy fetters so light
Thou cravest another man's chain?"

Are the links of our fetters so light we crave other nations chains?

[Allen]

We have legal channels for those who want to come here or legal points of entry. The Southern and Northern borders are not legal channels.

Coming here in droves, crashing through our barriers, threatening our security, demanding their "rights", throwing their kids over the wall, and so forth is an invasion. Not immigration.

They want to leech what we have worked for rather than try to better themselves and their own country.

[Vern Humphrey]

We have legal channels for those who want to come here or legal points of entry. The Southern and Northern borders are not legal channels.

Coming here in droves, crashing through our barriers, threatening our security, demanding their "rights", throwing their kids over the wall, and so forth is an invasion. Not immigration.

They want to leech what we have worked for rather than try to better themselves and their own country.

Imagine what would happen to an American citizen who put his kids on the roof of a train headed for another country? Or abandoned them at the border? Where's the outrage for that kind of child neglect?

And when you think about what these illegal might do for our country, ask yourself, "What did they do for their own children?"